Obama Endorses Gay Marriage

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We are humans, we like to do things just for the hell of it.

Speak for yourself, friend. I like to think before I do something. I weigh it's consequences and it's liabilities to me and to the people around me.

And these norms you speak of are old and outdated.

Old and outdated? Just like Newton's laws, just like crocodiles. But they exist. There certainly must be a reason why they still do exist. Perhaps they are correct. This must be it.

They are norms because you accept what someone told you is normal but we have to agree that is subjective then.

I'm sure that people told you about the same norms on homosexuality as people have told me about in my home country. It can't be really that different.
Subjective? If you like to lie to yourself, maybe.

Norms should be challenged by sentient understanding beings with the right of purpose equal to all.

Well, you can challenge the norms all you want to. But they are still there, friend.
They won't go anywhere.

You can have your close relatives marrying each other if they want to, make a stand and inform me of their purpose but i doubt that will ever take off.

Hell if I would. If such a disgusting thing would take place within my family, I'd probably do everything in my power to write off their names from family records.

Gays are making a stand and there is a lot of them,

Unfortunately, I haven't seen a lot of them in this forum. But I've seen a lot of people who tell me they're not gay and support gay marriage and adoption rights.
Yeah. There are lots of them, obviously, not enough to change public opinion, though.

dont participate in what they do because you dont agree, thats fine, but should you really stop them.

Well, it's not up to me to stop them alone. I am nothing without society.
Society stops them. Norms, handed down by generations stop them.
The nature of marriage, the purpose of marriage stops them.
Obviously, such demands were not even voiced in the country I live in, because the homosexuals here have learned to live with the norms of the society around themselves. They do not set up the tyranny of the minority over the majority as they do there, obviously, not that they could.
But there, people of the majority are their most fervent supporters.
They support the king more than the king supports himself, so to speak.

Anyway marriage is a sham merely for tax purposes, but love is something entirely different and doubt you can ever stop one from doing that.

This is what it comes down for you people, actually. You generally have no real respect for what really creates the basis of any society.
Love? No. Love is merely but a word that you create in your mind.
I can claim to love my bike. Can I get married to my bike? By your words, I should be.