Same sex marriage

[ElDinero]

1.Marriage is (not exclusively but importantly) for the procreation and upbringing of children.

Source of that definition? Dictionary.com doesn't mention this at all in its definition. Are you sure you're not the one redefining it?

Anything which is not (in principle) open to this is not a marriage.

See above - definition does not require this.

Note this is in principle, so examples of heterosexual marriage where the couple cannot have children does not invalidate the principle.

What if they knew before they got married? What if the guy has his penis cut off in an accident? Who made these rules up, and where will I find them? I think you're making this up as you go along.

Homosexual unions are not in principle open to procreation.

While it's true they can't procreate with each other, many homosexual couples raise children and many more want to. We have at our disposal in this day and age wondrous ways in which this can be done. So now that homosexual couples can create and raise children, this doesn't sway you in any way? Thought not.

This is the issue, we can redefine marriage, which is what is being proposed and which is being fought against. At the moment homosexual unions cannot be called mariage.

According to who? As I said, you appear to be redefining it yourself.

2.Homosexual marriage is harmful to society as it devalues the special relationship between a man and a woman which is procreative in principle. A society which sees marriage as merely a union of two persons loses the ideals of family.

Here's what I think about you. Firstly, you're stuck in the past in a big way. Even if everything you said was true and marriage was for men and women only, times do and must change. We live in a society now where there is much less persecution of homosexuals, and it's about time. There is no reason whatsoever for there to be disparity of rights between people of different leanings in this way.

Secondly, you have redefined marriage to suit your own agenda, and it's based on nothing. Marriage is a union, that is literally what the word means. The children issue is irrelevant, and even if you could find a definition of marriage that makes procreation a focal point, it's irrelevant for the reasons outlined above.

Thirdly, as has been pointed out, marriage is an institution that predates your religion and is anything but sacred. It's a temporary contract binding two people, nothing more.