(May 13, 2012 at 11:24 am)genkaus Wrote:(May 13, 2012 at 11:21 am)StatCrux Wrote: you have already made a disagreeable premise by saying you only want to take natural facts into consideration, that's materialism, your dictating your reality as the basis of the premises before we even start, I don't accept your definition, see the problem?
Once you can prove your so called "transcendent" facts, they'd be taken into consideration as well and incorporated into the objective morality. Until then, they stay in the garbage where they belong.
How is your form of morality objective? I don't think you're getting this? Your criteria for "facts" is in itself just a set of beliefs about "facts" how do you know your criteria is correct for determining "facts" without reference to some other accepted truths/beliefs about reality you can't. You can't prove logic with logic, its just accepted, the same is true of God, a self evident first principle.
