RE: Same sex marriage
May 13, 2012 at 7:47 pm
(This post was last modified: May 13, 2012 at 7:48 pm by genkaus.)
(May 13, 2012 at 7:27 pm)StatCrux Wrote: procreation in principal is only possible between male and female. Same sex relationships cannot procreate without outside intervention, therefore in principal they cannot procreate.
An infertile woman, in principal could procreate, ie if she were a fully functioning woman (no change in nature) she could procreate, but she remains with no procreative potential due to her infertility. A same sex union has neither procreative nature in principal or potential.
Clearly, reality disagrees with your delusions. Procreation is possible asexually or hermaphroditically or sexually with two genders or with advancement in science with two identical genders even without external intervention (in principle, that is). You can keep repeating your ignorant delusions but that won't change the reality and it won't make your position any better.
Let's examine our debate so far and see how your position has been falling apart as you still cling to it. Let's pay particular attention to all the arguments you could not reply to and chose to ignore - as if if you ignored them, they'd cease to exist.
1. On the question of proving god's axiomicity - ignored.
2. The third gender argument for a better classification of human genders - ignored.
3. Question of why the exceptions would not invalidate the rule - ignored and the statement simply repeated
4. Distinction between potential and principle - ignored.
5. The question of accepting that we are using the wrong criteria while we figure out the correct one - ignored.
6. The question of correction upon discovery of the correct criteria -ignored.
7. The question of if it is possible for you to correct your position - ignored.
Even accepting your frankly bigoted rule, your argument is still blown out of the water. All you are capable of doing at this point is shut your ears, close your eyes, stamp your foot and cry "Not so".
(May 13, 2012 at 7:37 pm)StatCrux Wrote: "Under UK law, the legal definition of marriage is the ''union of a man and a woman''. With same-sex partnerships the legal definition of marriage would not apply. The Civil Partnership Act was created as the solution whereby same-sex couples can become ''married'' and benefit from the legal rights that mixed-sex marriage affords." Contract Law UK
"The matrimonial covenant, by which a man and a woman establish between themselves a partnership of the whole of life, is by its nature ordered toward the good of the spouses and the procreation and education of offspring; this covenant between baptized persons has been raised by Christ the Lord to the dignity of a sacrament." Catechism of the Catholic Church.
The law can change and the church's opinion is worthless. Anything else?