RE: Brewing a miracle.
May 15, 2012 at 12:07 am
(This post was last modified: May 15, 2012 at 12:07 am by Drich.)
(May 14, 2012 at 11:33 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Ok I was reflecting on what we were talking about and I'm interested to see where this is going. So let's take a different approach here; I want to be taught."Those who believe" does not mean everyone who believes will exhibit these gifts. "Those who believe" are subdivided by Paul in the letter to the Corinthians.
I agree with what you brought up about the spiritual gifts, but then we have Jesus here directly saying that 'those who believe' will be able to do said actions, including healing. Something doesn't add up.
Meaning not all share the same gifts. Christ did not say that all who believe, but of all who believe, And these signs will follow...
Quote:I disagree. The second half of the Bible is the Word alive i.e. Jesus, who was the Son of God i.e. God incarnate.The word Here is Logos. Logos is "the Word" or Christ incarnate as you have rightfully discerned. It means the Expressed/verbalized or even actualized will of God.(not as in literal written word as it does in the English) http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexi...3056&t=KJV
The recorded/written "word of God" in the Greek is graphe'. As in 2 Tim 3:16. It translates into "scripture." So when you see the word scripture or text it literally means written "word." When you see Word it means verbalized or audible.
Quote:If the Word is fallible,No the Graphe' is fallible.
We know it is subject to spelling errors grammatical issues and miss translation. This is proved over and over when comparing the original manuscripts with each other.
Quote: then so is God OR once again the Bible has got it wrong. But according to you:

Quote:So quite frankly I don't understand how the Bible cannot be perfect while at the same time it represents the Word which is perfect.Because you have confused "Word of God," with the word for "Scripture." English was not the original language of the texts. So to put your whole angry understanding of God on what you know of the English bible (yes even the king James) will always lead to misunderstandings and theological errors.
Next time may I suggest (If you are seriously looking to learn as you indicated at the start of your last post) that you simply ask your questions and hold off on your conclusions until you have all the information you requested.