Drich Wrote:Next time may I suggest (If you are seriously looking to learn as you indicated at the start of your last post) that you simply ask your questions and hold off on your conclusions until you have all the information you requested.
As a Free Thinker my beliefs are backed up by reason. The only way that I can learn is through expressing my reasoning, therefore exposing my belief which can then be corrected as necessary, provided the improvement is logical. So I can't simply ask questions without actually engaging in discussion.
Quote:"Those who believe" does not mean everyone who believes will exhibit these gifts. "Those who believe" are subdivided by Paul in the letter to the Corinthians.Ok, theologically I think this is sound. Now, applying this to reality, can you see how there's a flipside to it? Jesus says (as you have illustrated) 'potentially all believers can do these things'. Right, no worries there. What have I personally observed? No believer in my community has been able to heal anyone. The answer to this? Paul's observation that people don't posses all the gifts. To me this is an easy way out of being able to explain the lack of e.g. healing in this case.
Meaning not all share the same gifts. Christ did not say that all who believe, but of all who believe, And these signs will follow...
This is my problem with the Bible. There's two parallel worlds, one being the Bible and the other reality, which never intersect. 'Yes, you can potentially heal, but actually no it turns out in reality you don't have the gift'. This is true of everyone I know.
Quote:The word Here is Logos. Logos is "the Word" or Christ incarnate as you have rightfully discerned. It means the Expressed/verbalized or even actualized will of God.(not as in literal written word as it does in the English) http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexi...3056&t=KJVOk, that makes more sense.
The recorded/written "word of God" in the Greek is graphe'. As in 2 Tim 3:16. It translates into "scripture." So when you see the word scripture or text it literally means written "word." When you see Word it means verbalized or audible.
Quote:No the Graphe' is fallible.So how can you understand that which is infallible through fallible means? An example of this is what Jesus tells us to do in Mark, which happens to be in the part of the manuscript that was added on. You still haven't addressed this.
We know it is subject to spelling errors grammatical issues and miss translation. This is proved over and over when comparing the original manuscripts with each other.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
