RE: Same sex marriage
May 19, 2012 at 8:48 am
(This post was last modified: May 19, 2012 at 8:56 am by StatCrux.)
(May 14, 2012 at 11:10 am)NoMoreFaith Wrote: So aren't you trying to enforce your religious views, on a society that does not accept your Orthodoxy?
Its' not society that is demanding change it's a tiny minority group, the majority of society want marriage to remain between a man and a woman, that's why the UK government has backed down on the issue, becuase they realise it's NOT what the majority of society wants.
(May 14, 2012 at 12:01 pm)ElDinero Wrote: Just like to point out about StatCrux's 'definitions' of marriage (apologies if somebody else has already knocked this into a cocked hat):
The first one was the UK Law definition. A law is not the same as a definition. The definition of marriage is a union. That is literally what the word means. What the UK takes it to mean in a legal sense is irrelevant, and open to change. Once it does change (and it will), you will presumably disagree with their definition and I would guess no longer use it in any future debates to make your point. You can't use it now, in its current form, and then ignore it once it changes. We can ignore it altogether, though, which is my suggestion.
The second was from the Catholic Church. I hope I don't need to elaborate on the statement that their definition is likely to be somewhat less than unbiased. What's the point in using them as a source in this discussion? It's like defining evolution by what a creationist website says it is.
(May 14, 2012 at 9:46 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Oh...I'm sorry, I was not aware that ONLY MALES were to discuss on this thread...night everyone!
How embarrassing for you, bitch. Make me a sandwich.
Firstly, we are talking specifically about the legal definition of marriage, that's the whole issue! Nobody cares what the dictionary definition is or isn't. Secondly the definition given by the Catholic Church is a valid point, it's a matter of who you accept has authority on the issue. This is very much part of the issue. If same sex marriage is made legal, the next stage is to force the Church to perform such unions. This is the stand off the pro-gay movements wants, can a government force religious institutions to perform ceremonies that are fundamentallly against what they believe? It will create a stand off between Church and state, its devisive and confrontational behaviour by the pro-gay movement.