Same sex marriage

[kılıç_mehmet]

Only if they really were a "race" themselves, they would have looked rather reasonable in my eyes.

...and to spell out the point,for StarCrux & mehmet's benefit is that racism & sexism are not being battled by new legal definitions of race or gender but by ending the hypocrisy with which legislation is formulated. A stronger argument for the end of 'legal' marriage has never been made.

StarCrux, there's no slippery slope here, just equal rights to all consenting adults.

kılıç_mehmet, the battle against racism is an anaolgy. The point is the battle for equal civil rights.

Well, civil rights is another thing. I do not oppose the right of people of two different races being together. I just oppose the concept for my own people. I'm sure there are a lot of people who do the same.

It seems to me that telling people what they can and cannot do with their sexual organs with another consenting person is entirely stupid, leave the homosexuals be, I intend to be married soon and I don't see it as a union before god so I don't think it can be fair to impose on others your own view of a certain ceremony. If i was told that, in being an atheist, I was not allowed a wedding I'd be fucked off, it's not in the rights of others to usurp that decision.

As I said, marriage in my country is always a secular institution and is done by civil servants. Yet it's still marriage.