Same sex marriage

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So although you think that people should have legal rights, you're of the opinion that you shouldn't/don't have to recognise those rights?

I do have to recognize their rights, as the government recognizes their rights. Who am I to oppose the government in that regard?

Ethnic counciousness?!? WTF?!! I'm going to pull you up on that right now. Unless you can demonstrate:

Well, I guess you never heard of ethnic consciousness. That is the consciousness that I and many nationalists possess.
The belonging of a particular people and race. Not two or more peoples or races.

1. that there are statistically valid differences between 'counciousnesses' (other than nominal, human variation)

I guess you do not understand what "ethnic consciousness" means.
It means that you feel belonging to a specific people/ethnicity/race.
I feel belonging to a single and single race of people only. That is of the Turks. I do not feel belonging to any other people(say, albanians, for example, a minority in Turkey). If I had an albanian parent or grandparent, in addition to a parent of Turkish ancestry, I would feel a general lack of loyalty to the Turkish cause. I have seen this within the many mixed-ethnicity people that I've met around here. They are quick to denounce their Turkish heritage and embrace their other heritage when faced with anti-Turkist sentiments or Turkist policies. Half-breeds are potentially the most dangerous type of people as they practically swing back and forth between different sides.

2. that these differences derive from ethnicity, based on nationalist/tribal definitions

They do.

the comment you made was racist.

Yes it is.

I mean, I've heard some pretty disgusting nationalist bollocks out of the mouths of EDL members but I've not heard any comment that low or bigotted since the late 80s.

Whatever. Obviously I do not care if you choose to pollute your own blood. Just stop inciting others to do so by preaching that it doesn't matter.
It matters a lot.
It spells the difference between loyalty and disloyalty, it spells the difference between honesty and dishonesty, it spells the difference between being useful to your nation and to your people and being a liability.

Certainly, in a country that was founded upon an ethnicity, we must care about such things.