RE: Where's the justice?
May 21, 2012 at 5:57 pm
(This post was last modified: May 21, 2012 at 6:10 pm by Ace Otana.)
Quote:No, but I do not have to. For God tell us He will provide us with all the proof we need if we simple ask, seek and knock for it as He has told us to do.Yeah we've been through this before. You have to believe in order to believe. Presuppose god's existence nonsense. Sorry but it doesn't work that way. I prefer to stick to logical procedures, and Occam's razer of course.
Quote:What if God said it to you? What would change then?I'll have to find out if it was god or I'm simply hallucinating. I'll stick to simple explanations till there is evidence for the complex. Occam's razer.
Quote:Eternal separation. (which once you have had your eyes opened will indeed cause a type of pain, Regret and despair)Separation from an incompetent fool sounds rather nice to be honest.
Quote:If you are not aware the book of Revelations is a book of prophesy and as such uses imagery to paint a picture of reality consistent with the prophet's understanding of what he has been given over to see. In otherwords the Prophet (john of patmos in this case) is trying to describe what He has seen.Seems more like he's painting a picture/describing of what he saw in his over active imagination. I'll apply Occam's razer and use the simpler explanation and using known entities and conclude that he is delusional.
Quote:Hell is eternal separation from God. Passages like Mt 10:28 tell us is a place where the body and soul is consumed/destroyed by fire.Still think your god's a prick.
Quote:By definition God is not sadistic because of the extreme lengths He went to procure your atonement, to which all you have to do is accept it.Great lenghts? I thought god was all powerful? Also if his plan isn't working so well and that more and more have considered the whole religious thing to be complete nonsense, perhaps he didn't think things through? A sign of incompetence perhaps? Surely being all knowing he'd know of a better way to deal with things?
Quote:Because "IF" God is not who He said He was then what makes you think Heaven or Hell for that matter is what He said it would be?Why would you? Oh wait, dah bubble says so!
Also the question is irrelevant to me. I don't believe in god.
Quote:Which is why I asked Why would you want to spend an eternity with that type of being anyway?Didn't say I did. The question is meaningless. I simply stated that "what if god did allow both theists and atheists? That's all. Just curious of theist's response. Apparently you seem to dislike the idea, not sure why.
Quote:Then maybe you should take a more indepth and not such an overly simplified view of what Christianity is all about.I'm not expected to do anything. I'm just an atheist. Atheist which means - Without theism. That's all. Theist's claim there is a god and some afterlife, I lack that belief. I reject it. Haven't rejected some god because I don't believe there is a god to reject. Just the claim that he/it exists. That's it.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.