RE: Same sex marriage
May 25, 2012 at 11:26 am
(This post was last modified: May 25, 2012 at 11:43 am by Ben Davis.)
(May 25, 2012 at 6:38 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, it isn't just a commitment they do to eachother. Marriage is a commitment that you do to the society itself. It is the foundation of the family, and therefore, the human society.
Their love...Well, it's really not that relevant. You can be in love without being married, can you not? It's not about any of these. I know what it's all about.
Historically, long before there was an institution of marriage, way before there were even properly formed legal structures, there were 'commitment ceremonies' and before that, there was just reproduction. Throughout the periods where these situations existed, offspring were still produced and anthropologists/biologists/historians can demonstrate that 'family' existed in a wide variety of forms.
To track the origins of marriage, you need to understand that commitment ceremonies came into existence because more people became 'monogomous' and ethics evolved. In these ceremonies, people publically announced their commitment for no other reason than 'shouting it from the rooftops'. In time, those with power over society cynically corrupted the idea of the ceremony to include all sorts of legislation which increased their power or control over society; let's remember that in the development of every marriage ceremony in every society, at first only those at the top of the hierarchy could marry, the 'commoners' could not. By the time commoners could, institutions such as ownership of the woman were already ingrained. This is what has become the standard.
So you're wrong, once again. Originally, it was only about commitment to your partners and nothing else. That's how I would prefer it to be again. Obviously you don't know what it's all about
Quote:Marriage legislation exists in order to provide couples with legal rights, and also to take the institution of marriage under the protection of the state itself.
No, those legal rights can be attained without marriage. Just ask a lawyer. That being true, you need to ask yourself why a state would choose to protect the legal institution of marriage.
Quote:Besides, I think you know what deviancy is. Homosexuality is a deviant behavior, caused by biological abnormalities.
Wrong, yet again. 'Deviancy' is an arbitrary subjective concept. Homosexuality is a naturally occuring phenomenon as are all ranges of sexuality, sexual behaviour & sexual identification. There is no 'deviancy', just a range of human variety.
Quote:I don't know why we should grant it the same social acceptance that heterosexuals enjoy. They may be granted legal rights, but under a different context. The difference must be known and drawn with clear lines.
No, no, no! All people must be afforded the same level of legal protection, irrespective of race, creed, sexuality, artistic preference, musical taste, choice of breakfast cereal... if not, people will be harmed by arbitrary discrimination, tacitly approved by the state. That is wrong. Are you getting it yet?!
Quote:Equality is only amongst equals.
All people are born equal therefore all people must be granted equality. You're done.
Sum ergo sum