(May 31, 2012 at 7:59 am)Welsh cake Wrote: Oh, StatCrux, you really do irk me some days. You come here, with a seemingly innocent question, while failing to recognise its nonsensical and therefore unanswerable. You fail to accept your mistake or be intellectually honest about your position, and then resort to semantic games by insinuating that those who lack faith have faith, which is asinine and completely foolish of you. You're basically looking for ways to make as many cheap shots against us hoping that'll your baseless assertions will stick, but of course they don't.
You're seeking confirmers for your presuppositions and misconceptions about atheism, and that's why you fail at debating people.
We don't have faith. In anything. You don't "need faith to have no faith" (I can't believe you'd say something so absurd).
Life has no objective meaning, other than to live. What you do or don't do in your lifespan is entirely up to circumstance, cause and effect, and your own ability.
We use our imagination, our creativity, our brains, same as you, and the observable world around us to inspire us to create art, literature, music, poetry, technology, and so on. The passion and drive to create comes from us. Belief in a metaphysical fucking entity that has no inherent form, a non-entity lacking a clear positive ontology, is obviously not going to inspire anyone, or accomplish anything at all, you oblivious-to-your-own-god-concept-twit.
Look stay on track, just the basics first. If you say life has "no meaning" objective or otherwise, the original argument was "no meaning" objective or subjective was not mentioned. You cannot then create your own meaning without being delusional, to create a meaning when you have just stated there isn't one is contradictory. If you then "believe" your own meaning that is faith in your own self admittedly delusion. Just stick with this, can you have meaning and no meaning at the same time? Yes or No?
