StaCrux Wrote:Look stay on track, just the basics first. If you say life has "no meaning" objective or otherwise, the original argument was "no meaning" objective or subjective was not mentioned. You cannot then create your own meaning without being delusional, to create a meaning when you have just stated there isn't one is contradictory. If you then "believe" your own meaning that is faith in your own self admittedly delusion. Just stick with this, can you have meaning and no meaning at the same time? Yes or No?
This is how it goes. Atheists do not believe in an inherent, objective meaning to life . We do believe that we can figure out our purpose through analizying our lives to determine what makes us happy as long as it doesn't hurt others. This is not dilusional since we reject that life itself has any inherent meaning, but it has left us to our own devices to individually decide what our purpose for living is. Mine are: my son, my wife, writing, listening to music, helping others suffeing from depression.
So life, as a whole, is meaningless. But the individual may create meaning for themselves.
Atheism doesn' mean our lives have no meaning. It means we don't get our meaning handed to us on a silver platter by an invisible father figure.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell