RE: Does atheism inspire people?
May 31, 2012 at 9:08 am
(This post was last modified: May 31, 2012 at 9:09 am by Welsh cake.)
(May 31, 2012 at 8:05 am)StatCrux Wrote: If you say life has "no meaning" objective or otherwise, the original argument was "no meaning" objective or subjective was not mentioned.I couldn't care less about what was originally discussed, I'm only interested in what is currently being discussed.
Quote:If you then "believe" your own meaning that is faith in your own self admittedly delusion. Just stick with this, can you have meaning and no meaning at the same time? Yes or No?Subjectively or Objectively?
(May 31, 2012 at 8:49 am)StatCrux Wrote: Because atheists "create" their own meaning for life (as attested to in this thread) if they believe this created meaning, that is faith.That's not faith. Justifying your own life, your own existence, via secular means without all the religious garbage is NOT faith. Choosing a course of action, planning, finding a career, and/or deciding what one is going to do with their life is not blind hope. Its a series of conscious decisions being made and acting upon them. How many times must you be told?
Quote:You replace belief in God with belief in your own created meaning, essentially you place yourself in the position of God, precisely what the Lucifer story warns us of doing. Christians admit they have faith, atheists won't admit it.Let's play devil's advocate.
I will accept for sake of argument your god is real and true meaning of life.
1. What meaning does god provide to our lives that secular non-religious sources cannot also provide?
2. Why do theists, like atheists, still take their own lives/commit suicide?