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Does atheism inspire people?
RE: Does atheism inspire people?
(May 31, 2012 at 12:16 pm)StatCrux Wrote: I'm saying that religion is a great inspiration due to the effect it has on the consciousness, it opens our mind to the transcendent nature of reality, we are all capable of doing this, whether we call it God or not is another matter. God is only a word in that sense.

No, you suggested that art without religion is somehow less, which is a lie. I won't say wrong because I think you have just outright made it up.

To remind you of what you said:

Quote:I'm not talking about subject matter, I'm talking about the kind of awareness that comes from a religious understanding of reality, it is this that inspires the imagination. That's how great art has a powerful effect on people, because we all recognize the transcendent and luminous, paintings based on HP Lovecraft may be good, but they would not have the same effect as great works of art that reach out and have a powerful effect on us. Go and see the Crucifixion by Matthias Grünewald with an open mind.

Is there anything in there that is "just" saying religion is inspiration? No. You are saying that art can't be great without religion.
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Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 6:13 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Ace Otana - May 31, 2012 at 6:19 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 6:24 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Ace Otana - May 31, 2012 at 6:27 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by NoMoreFaith - May 31, 2012 at 6:38 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 6:47 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by NoMoreFaith - May 31, 2012 at 7:15 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Mister Agenda - May 31, 2012 at 10:15 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 10:41 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Mister Agenda - May 31, 2012 at 11:34 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by fuckass365 - May 31, 2012 at 6:48 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Zen Badger - May 31, 2012 at 7:04 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by NoMoreFaith - May 31, 2012 at 6:23 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 6:30 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Zen Badger - May 31, 2012 at 6:42 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Zen Badger - May 31, 2012 at 6:30 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Ace Otana - May 31, 2012 at 6:45 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 6:55 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by fuckass365 - May 31, 2012 at 7:10 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Ace Otana - May 31, 2012 at 7:13 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 7:19 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Ace Otana - May 31, 2012 at 7:26 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by fuckass365 - May 31, 2012 at 7:50 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 7:59 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by fuckass365 - May 31, 2012 at 8:12 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 8:15 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by fuckass365 - May 31, 2012 at 8:20 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 8:28 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Zen Badger - May 31, 2012 at 8:32 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by NoMoreFaith - May 31, 2012 at 7:19 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 7:31 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by NoMoreFaith - May 31, 2012 at 7:42 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 7:50 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by NoMoreFaith - May 31, 2012 at 8:15 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by KichigaiNeko - May 31, 2012 at 7:02 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Brian37 - May 31, 2012 at 7:17 am
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RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Brian37 - May 31, 2012 at 7:07 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Reforged - May 31, 2012 at 7:07 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 7:08 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Reforged - May 31, 2012 at 7:09 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 7:14 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Ace Otana - May 31, 2012 at 7:22 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Brian37 - May 31, 2012 at 7:28 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 7:37 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Zen Badger - May 31, 2012 at 7:31 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 7:44 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by NoMoreFaith - May 31, 2012 at 7:48 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 7:55 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Zen Badger - May 31, 2012 at 7:59 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by NoMoreFaith - May 31, 2012 at 8:18 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 8:24 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Erinome - May 31, 2012 at 7:24 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Kayenneh - May 31, 2012 at 7:35 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Kayenneh - May 31, 2012 at 7:50 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Welsh cake - May 31, 2012 at 7:59 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 8:05 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Paul the Human - May 31, 2012 at 8:00 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Ace Otana - May 31, 2012 at 8:11 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 8:19 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Ace Otana - May 31, 2012 at 8:20 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 8:49 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Zen Badger - May 31, 2012 at 8:52 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Ace Otana - May 31, 2012 at 11:36 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Nine - May 31, 2012 at 8:19 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Zen Badger - May 31, 2012 at 8:24 am
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RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 8:34 am
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RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Zen Badger - May 31, 2012 at 9:04 am
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RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 8:58 am
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RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 9:10 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by fuckass365 - May 31, 2012 at 9:13 am
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RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Zen Badger - May 31, 2012 at 9:20 am
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RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Zen Badger - May 31, 2012 at 9:31 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Anomalocaris - May 31, 2012 at 9:52 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by KichigaiNeko - May 31, 2012 at 8:59 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Paul the Human - May 31, 2012 at 9:02 am
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RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 9:07 am
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RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Welsh cake - May 31, 2012 at 9:37 am
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RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by KichigaiNeko - May 31, 2012 at 9:49 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 9:56 am
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RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 10:09 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by fuckass365 - May 31, 2012 at 10:20 am
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Darwinian - May 31, 2012 at 10:58 am
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RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 10:29 am
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RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 6:59 pm
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Epimethean - May 31, 2012 at 7:04 pm
RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by StatCrux - May 31, 2012 at 7:09 pm
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RE: Does atheism inspire people? - by Polaris - May 31, 2012 at 7:10 pm
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