RE: Question for "Hard Atheists" - Do You Oppose Religion In General?
June 1, 2012 at 3:22 pm
(This post was last modified: June 1, 2012 at 3:25 pm by Angrboda.)
"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities."
— Voltaire
Wikipedia Wrote:Credo quia absurdum is a Latin phrase of uncertain origin. It means "I believe because it is absurd" It is derived from a poorly remembered or misquoted passage in Tertullian's De Carne Christi defending the tenets of orthodox Christianity against docetism, which reads in the original Latin:
Crucifixus est Dei Filius, non pudet, quia pudendum est;
et mortuus est Dei Filius, prorsus credibile est, quia ineptum est;
et sepultus resurrexit, certum est, quia impossibile.
— (De Carne Christi V, 4)
"The Son of God was crucified: there is no shame, because it is shameful.
And the Son of God died: it is wholly credible, because it is unsuitable.
And, buried, He rose again: it is certain, because impossible."
Hunh. Well you learn something new every day. There goes the point I had in mind.
Anyway, I would build on Richard Feynman's idea, quoting:
Richard Feynman Wrote:Some years ago I had a conversation with a layman about flying saucers — because I am scientific I know all about flying saucers! I said “I don’t think there are flying saucers”. So my antagonist said, “Is it impossible that there are flying saucers? Can you prove that it’s impossible?” “No”, I said, “I can’t prove it’s impossible. It’s just very unlikely”. At that he said, “You are very unscientific. If you can’t prove it impossible then how can you say that it’s unlikely?” But that is the way that is scientific. It is scientific only to say what is more likely and what less likely, and not to be proving all the time the possible and impossible. To define what I mean, I might have said to him, "Listen, I mean that from my knowledge of the world that I see around me, I think that it is much more likely that the reports of flying saucers are the results of the known irrational characteristics of terrestrial intelligence than of the unknown rational efforts of extra-terrestrial intelligence." It is just more likely. That is all.
To which I would only add that, there may be absolutes that are justifiable, but in the main, claims that 'X must exist' or 'X mustn't exist', as absolute claims, have likely departed from the path of reason. I don't see how a Christian, in all honesty, would characterize his belief in God as the idea that He "probably exists." You may draw your own conclusions from that.
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