RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side.
June 4, 2012 at 10:01 pm
(This post was last modified: June 4, 2012 at 10:02 pm by liam.)
(June 4, 2012 at 9:36 pm)padraic Wrote:Quote:That's because soldiers are inherently immoral. If they sign up for killing people, what stretch is there to bullying, discrimination and intolerance?
Oh for fuck sake,what is a stupidly bigoted thing to say. I was a soldier,your comment is insulting,you ignorant cunt..
The hundreds with whom I served were no better and no worse than any other like sized group of human beings. All of my friends had a strict code of personal ethics and loyalty. I trusted them with my life.
Contrary to popular myth it's actually very difficult to get one human being to kill another. Almost every vet I've met who killed another person has been effected for life by the experience. The exceptions are the psychopaths,every army has a few.(I met ONE).
It's hardly bigoted, if it was bigoted it would be based on ignorance and I'm not being ignorant about it, perhaps my morality and yours differ greatly but that is no reason to insult me. I don't agree with war, there is nothing bigoted or ignorant about that, I'd argue it's very reasonable, I don't think you really had to stoop to personal insults but I understand you're offended.
I'm sorry but if anyone is willing to kill another person then, to me, they're morally wrong. I don't care if the situation where that willingness is visited upon them occurs, but the participation in warfare is wrong because those who partake in it, by occupation, MUST be willing to take human life and that's wrong. If that view offends you then perhaps you ought to relax a bit.
I know that it isn't easy to get a person to kill another but I don't see how that disproves what I'm saying, surely it is difficult because people SHOULDN'T be killing one another? I know that seeing people go through the trauma of killing is hard and that there is extreme psychological damage incurred through taking life but, yet again, there should be. If you kill someone then that guilt is entirely justified.
I get that you're upset that I disagree with the army because you served but I honestly don't agree with killing on any level and I hardly think that warrants personal insult.
Quote:I'm a veteran. Forum rules and common decency don't permit me to respond to this post in the way it deserves.
I don't see what difference you being a veteran makes, my point stands, warfare and the participation therein is wrong, what is questionable about that? This post demands a normal, rational response as it was put forward as an introduction to a rationally-considered view and doesn't deserve the kind of wrath you obviously intended.
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