(June 4, 2012 at 10:01 pm)liam Wrote: It's hardly bigoted, if it was bigoted it would be based on ignorance and I'm not being ignorant about it, perhaps my morality and yours differ greatly but that is no reason to insult me. I don't agree with war, there is nothing bigoted or ignorant about that, I'd argue it's very reasonable, I don't think you really had to stoop to personal insults but I understand you're offended.
I'm sorry but if anyone is willing to kill another person then, to me, they're morally wrong. I don't care if the situation where that willingness is visited upon them occurs, but the participation in warfare is wrong because those who partake in it, by occupation, MUST be willing to take human life and that's wrong. If that view offends you then perhaps you ought to relax a bit.
I know that it isn't easy to get a person to kill another but I don't see how that disproves what I'm saying, surely it is difficult because people SHOULDN'T be killing one another? I know that seeing people go through the trauma of killing is hard and that there is extreme psychological damage incurred through taking life but, yet again, there should be. If you kill someone then that guilt is entirely justified.
I get that you're upset that I disagree with the army because you served but I honestly don't agree with killing on any level and I hardly think that warrants personal insult.
Firstly, just because you didn't use the word 'cunt', doesn't make your comments less insulting. By throwing a blanket over any group of people and describing them all as immoral based on your stupid, narrow, black and white view, you're being every bit as insulting and rude.
On the actual point, if there were no military/department of defence/law enforcement in your country, where exactly do you think you'd be? Fucking dead, that's where. You can sit there and say 'well everyone should stop fighting/committing crimes and we wouldn't need those things' all you like, but what use is it? On a point like this, it's only useful to talk about what is and is not required in the real world, not some fanciful utopia. And like I say, without those things, the rights and privileges you hold dear would likely have been destroyed long, long ago.
