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Soldiers life threatened by his own side.
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RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side.
Quote:That's because the main recruits come from our economically depressed areas, namely the Bible belt.

As such, the military at times cannot decide if it wants to invoke the super human "Onwards Christian Soldiers" ideology or not.
Well, this is why I'm an advocate of conscription.
Here, everyone must do their military service, although the government has enacted a law which allows people to pay a sum and never go to the military at all.
Well, only people who have about 20000 $ of disposable income can avoid military service.
It's really a shame that the economically emancipated must go and die in Iraq and Afghanistan. And in a way, they are like mercenaries, for they are paid for their services as soldiers for a small amount of time.

(June 4, 2012 at 8:58 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote:
(June 4, 2012 at 8:51 pm)liam Wrote: That's because soldiers are inherently immoral. If they sign up for killing people, what stretch is there to bullying, discrimination and intolerance?

Bullying, intolerance are uncontrollable and detrimental to the chain of command. As far as the chain of command is concerned, you do not eat, sleep or drink without being authorized, explicitly or implicitly.

Now, how far this is really believed?

Strangely, I feel that I have more faith in the Turkish military keeping secular than the US military being professional.
Our military has a strong secular tradition, however this has sparked various sayings about the Turkish military being against Islam.
These are very untrue accusations, spread by ummah-sympathisants, islamists and liberals.
Such accusations are made to make our people lose their faith in our army.
Most and foremost of all, our army is a nationalist institution(therefore, it has to be secular). It's members, the officers, first and foremost of all, need to have loyalties to the people, state and the army before anything else.
The army upholds secularism to uphold nationalism, and upholds nationalism to uphold secularism. These are so well inter-related, that they may not exist in our country seperately.

Obviously, there are some who are deliberately sent into the military by religious sects to carve themselves a portion of the military, with which they wish to fuel a "green revolution", similar to Iran. The army repeatedly expels such people once they learn who they are.

Unfortunately, the media shows these as a sign that the army "is against religion". This is not true. I know many high ranking officers who have gone to the pilgrimage after retiring.
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RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by kılıç_mehmet - June 5, 2012 at 5:40 am
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 4, 2012 at 10:01 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 4, 2012 at 10:09 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 8, 2012 at 10:29 am
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 10, 2012 at 4:45 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 11, 2012 at 1:26 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 11, 2012 at 1:38 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 11, 2012 at 1:51 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 11, 2012 at 2:20 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 12, 2012 at 2:09 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 12, 2012 at 3:30 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 12, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 13, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RE: Soldiers life threatened by his own side. - by liam - June 13, 2012 at 5:37 pm

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