RE: The trinity
June 5, 2012 at 8:47 am
(This post was last modified: June 5, 2012 at 8:48 am by Reforged.)
(June 4, 2012 at 11:37 pm)Drich Wrote:They're not "little corners" you patronising, grossly misinformed little man. The references to God as a singular individual undeniably make up the bulk of the Bible.(June 4, 2012 at 9:11 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: Theres a problem here.
"Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'? Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does. But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father. (John 10:36-38)"
Gods son. Not part of God, not a member of God. Gods son. He refers to God as a seperate entity, a being. God is refered in this way in many, many passages. Now if you were trying to argue that God and Jesus were seperate entities and the whole Trinity thing was some type of symbolism you might be able to get away with that. The fact of the matter is theres no evidence in the Bible that God is some type of divine organization. At almost every turn it is refered to as a singular being. Unless you were willing to refute these passages, which would make up quite a sizable chunk of the Bible, you cannot claim this to be anything other than your unproven theory on your unproven beliefs.
Answered in verse 30. You guys love to pick and choose the bible apart and have made very compelling arguments in the tiny little corners of the bible you focus on. However your arguments come completely unraveled when placed in context. Try reading your passages in a context that include verse 30.
John 10:30, New International Version "I and the Father are one."
Explain the evidence you drew upon to translate this into "I and the Father are in a special organization called God" as opposed to some type of poetic symbolism.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die."
- Abdul Alhazred.
- Abdul Alhazred.