The trinity

[DeistPaladin]

@DeistPaladin
What's the problem if Jesus is separate from the Father(=they are not the same person)?

For me, it's not a problem since I don't believe in any of it anyway. For the believer, you have two theological issues to work out:

1. Polytheism: Jesus can forgive sins, essentially making him a god. Dirch tries to redefine some terms here but can't escape how his triumvirate of three separate deities still contains multiple deities and is therefore polytheistic.

"Deity" = a god
Three deities = multiple gods
Multiple gods = polytheism

Redefining "God" as a conglomerate of three deities doesn't escape this problem.

2. OT vs NT Yahweh: The OT forbids us to have an intercessor deity (Isaiah 43:10-12) and the first commandment also forbids it. This same jealous god fades into the background as this young, upstart deity takes center stage?

Now there were early Christians who did believe that Jesus was a separate celestial being from Yahweh. The Marcionites thought Jesus was a superior god to Yahweh and rejected the entire OT. The Arians (not to be confused with Hitler's mythical "super race") preached that Jesus was an angel sent by Yahweh. The Ebionites said that Jesus was a mortal man adopted by Yahweh as a son.

All of these faiths failed at Nicaea because they either lacked universal appeal (the Ebionites were strictly Jewish) or they couldn't be reconciled with the OT (needed because the Romans would never accept a "new" religion, on the theory that if it were really true, how come nobody heard about it before?).