(June 5, 2012 at 2:57 pm)BeeDeePee Wrote: @frankiej
I don't think so.
The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are three persons that have the same(divine) essence or nature.
It's the same like three men who share common human nature.
But, there is one difference between humans and divine persons of the Trinity: when we speak about the mankind and everything that is created, we have to consider spase-time. Space-time separates human nature among many people, and that's why you have three men, though they have the same nature. But, when it comes to the Triune God, there is no separation between them. There's just personal dictinction, because you have three persons that have their own unique identity.
Two problems:
1. Sorry, it's still polytheism.
Even if three deities were a hive mind, you still have three deities. 3 = multiple = poly. Ergo polytheism.
Add as much gloss as you like.
2. It can't be reconciled with the Synoptic Gospels
Do I really need to quote them again for you? In these Gospels, Jesus is separate from and subordinate to Yahweh, with a lesser body of knowledge, a subordinate will and a different frame of experience evidence by speaking to Yahweh in 2nd person and of him in 3rd person.
Tell me how "same substance god" can be reconciled with the verses I previously quoted:
Mark 15:34
Matt 24:36
Luke 22:42
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
