RE: The trinity
June 5, 2012 at 6:15 pm
(This post was last modified: June 5, 2012 at 6:24 pm by DeistPaladin.)
(June 5, 2012 at 6:06 pm)Drich Wrote:Quote:Any progress yet on the Synoptic verses I provided? Get back to me on that sometime, won't you?You mean the mess of miss-quotes of Isa and John?
Isaiah and John are not part of the Synoptic Gospels are they?
Synoptic Gospels = Mark, Matthew, Luke.
You were asked direct questions about them. Now answer me.
From post #116 in case you've forgotten in your attempts at obfuscation:
Quote:2. It can't be reconciled with the Synoptic Gospels
Do I really need to quote them again for you? In these Gospels, Jesus is separate from and subordinate to Yahweh, with a lesser body of knowledge, a subordinate will and a different frame of experience evidence by speaking to Yahweh in 2nd person and of him in 3rd person.
Tell me how "same substance god" can be reconciled with the verses I previously quoted:
Mark 15:34
Matt 24:36
Luke 22:42
I'm rest my case with our discussion on whether or not your Godcorp is a polytheistic notion. I'll leave it for the readers to judge who won that exchange.
Reposted from an earlier post so you have no opportunity for more intellectual dishonesty:
From page 11:
Quote:Jesus and Yahweh speak to each other in 2nd person and of each other in 3rd person:
Quote:Mark 15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Jesus doesn't know all that Yahweh knows:
Quote:Matt 24:36 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, neither the Son but my Father only.
Jesus has a separate will which is subordinate to his father's will:
Quote:Luke 22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist