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The trinity
RE: The trinity
(June 6, 2012 at 8:42 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: Actually, it was originally from post #108...
which was answered in post 117 with an explanation using the original language, that deemed your use and conclusion of the selected passages from the gospels as invalid.

Quote:...and I called on you to address that problem in #128...
Quote:Still waiting for you to explain how Jesus is "equal" to Yahweh given the Bible verses I quoted.
Because Equality in the Eyes of the Jews who wrote these scriptures refers to the House as a whole in which power and authority is established, and not to the individual roles in which the members of said house part take. Meaning the Equality the three members of the God Head or trinity, share the roles and responsibility of what it means to be God. In otherworld the responsibility of God is divided equally amongst them. The Son and Spirit Freely submit to the Father and take on the roles they currently have. Your verses show this submission. Equality does not imply all three members have the same powers and authority.

Where your problem lies is your taking the modern interpretation of the word and trying to directly apply it to a 2000+ year old text. This 'logic' "does not follow"

The reason this was dismissed before was this conclusion was always tied to your mis reading of Isaiah, and even now as a stand alone question it has nothing to do with what is being taught here.

Quote:*Sounds of hammering as I nail you down to that topic*
When a man's only tool is a Hammer then everything begins to look like a nail.
Big Grin
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