Why even go there?
Here is the reality, simple and sweet.
There is a stupid misunderstanding most humans fall for in "either/or" propositions.
Nature, and the laws of the universe are neither all deterministic or all random, but BOTH.
Weather, like a snow storm is deterministic only in the sense of CONDITIONS. What is random is the amount of snowflakes in exact number.
The laws in science are BOTH chaos and order.
Even in human behavior such as crime. We cannot predict which individual will do what, but we do know that certain conditions can lead to more of a certain behavior, even if it is not an absolute for every individual in that group.
The problem with language, literally, is that there is a GENERAL huge difference between when a layperson uses a word, and a scientist uses a word.
Scientific method, if it is to grow and the people who use that tool are ethical, NEVER talk in terms of absolutes. They always talk in terms of conditions and probabilities and range as a guide.
One of the worst example of how theists twist a scientific word is the word "law". To the theist they falsely think of it as political construct in a court. When scientists use the word "law" they mean it in a COMPLETELY different context.
It merely is a word used to describe the observations they have noted that to the best of their data, cant be broken.
So when it comes to suffering, why does it happen? Because nature and evolution is not concerned with suffering because it is not a being, but a process.
Here is the reality, simple and sweet.
There is a stupid misunderstanding most humans fall for in "either/or" propositions.
Nature, and the laws of the universe are neither all deterministic or all random, but BOTH.
Weather, like a snow storm is deterministic only in the sense of CONDITIONS. What is random is the amount of snowflakes in exact number.
The laws in science are BOTH chaos and order.
Even in human behavior such as crime. We cannot predict which individual will do what, but we do know that certain conditions can lead to more of a certain behavior, even if it is not an absolute for every individual in that group.
The problem with language, literally, is that there is a GENERAL huge difference between when a layperson uses a word, and a scientist uses a word.
Scientific method, if it is to grow and the people who use that tool are ethical, NEVER talk in terms of absolutes. They always talk in terms of conditions and probabilities and range as a guide.
One of the worst example of how theists twist a scientific word is the word "law". To the theist they falsely think of it as political construct in a court. When scientists use the word "law" they mean it in a COMPLETELY different context.
It merely is a word used to describe the observations they have noted that to the best of their data, cant be broken.
So when it comes to suffering, why does it happen? Because nature and evolution is not concerned with suffering because it is not a being, but a process.
