Is belief in God a choice

[fr0d0]

you're happy to discuss it if I provide what I have stated very many times is not possible. You want me to discuss choice but not as part of my belief!? To me this directly equates to a refusal to discuss the subject. I'd love to hear how you possibly think it couldn't.

No - I'm happy to discuss it in any way at all, but we've gotta be actually discussing. And what I'm asking you, non rhetorically as I've stated on a few occasions is: if then you are unwilling to evidence your position, and you're just going to keep saying that only yourself and other Christians can understand that belief in God=a 'choice' somehow. Then how are we going to discuss it? I genuinely want to know, how we are supposed to discuss this, if I can't question you for evidence....how else are we supposed to discuss this matter.?? I want to know!! And ideas?!

What are you - a parrot!?

So you're saying you won't discuss it until you have 'evidence' to believe it yeah? I came to this thread because I thought you wanted to discuss how choice was a factor of belief in God, and not that you had to accept what you obviously do not. I require you to 'watch from a distance' how the reasoning works. Of course I don't expect you to understand belief in God or Faith or Choice in this context. I expect you to question, given the framework you disagree with, how other people that hold beliefs, reason the 'choice'.

If you want me to convert you to Christianity first, then I think that's a bit of a tall order. Not primarily because I have no fucking interest in doing so.

I don't need to 'support' my position. I have already done that countless times in other posts on other threads. You have perfect reasoning presented in JP's thread and you haven't refuted it. But this is besides the point. In this thread we aren't discussing why the existence of God is immaterial, or whether belief in God is rational. We're supposed to be discussing if belief in God can be a choice or not, from a Christian perspective (as you asked the question of me).


Please say you understand this now. I don't know how much more of this I can take.