RE: My perspective - truth or delusion?
June 9, 2012 at 8:57 am
(This post was last modified: June 9, 2012 at 9:36 am by Mystic.)
(June 9, 2012 at 5:41 am)NoMoreFaith Wrote: You attribute morality an eternal source, you give it a substance and "person" behind it.
Morality seems to be in need of "Person-hood" though. So if it needs eternal basis, that basis surely needs to be a Person.
(June 9, 2012 at 2:48 am)genkaus Wrote: You said it all yourself. Its a delusion. Your mind is playing tricks on you making you think that those delusions are reality. The source of your delusion is your mind and your desire to believe in a god.
Here is the problem, this would be the case IF God doesn't exist. I can appreciate you believe that, but if God exists, and he is the eternal basis of morality, and so morality points to eternal basis, etc, why wouldn't it be knowledge?
To me spiritual knowledge is possible if we have a soul and God exists. So why I should I assume spiritual belief is always a delusion?
To me, it seems the logical thing to do, is to ask myself if it's genuine knowledge as opposed to simply a "hunch". But to be honest, to me I see these things like I see things with my physical eyes.
(June 9, 2012 at 3:52 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Why is it being assumed that these things are eternal?
From my perspective, it's because God is the basis to these things, and hence that is their nature, and has given us knowledge of it. So that when we look at morality, greatness, we see an eternal basis to it. It rather seems like it would be a delusion if it didn't have an eternal basis. The eternal basis of these things also seems to be a person. It can't be some unconscious energy force.
