(September 2, 2009 at 5:41 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Please say you understand this now. I don't know how much more of this I can take.
Understand this: All through my last post I repeatedly asked a question, that I'd already asked more than once in posts before...but I went overboard with it in my last post...and you still haven't answered it.
I am not saying that we can't discuss it without you giving evidence, and I'm not saying that I expect you to therefore bow down to my way of doing things before we can discuss. I am genuinely asking you, non-rhetorically, as I have stated several times: how do you suggest we discuss this matter if you won't evidence your position?.
And how have you supported it without evidence? That's a contradiction because that's what evidence is, that what supports a belief. And yes, the matter of JP and Arcanus' arguments for God is not the issue here, but it does seem your view is analogous on this matter too, and I wonder how you can support your position without evidence without that being a question, and I wonder how you can say there can be no evidence and then say JP and Arcanus' arguments are logical proof. As I have said, proof is as strong evidence as you can get, so that's a massive contradiciton there.
So it's just that your position on this matter seems to be analogous to the position on the God matter, yes you expect no evidence once again, but then you also say it has support, which I wonder how is possible since that's what evidence is...support?
Once more - Understand this: All through my last post I repeatedly asked a question, that I'd already asked more than once in posts before...but I went overboard with it in my last post...and you still haven't answered it.
Once again:
EvF Wrote:I am not saying that we can't discuss it without you giving evidence, and I'm not saying that I expect you to therefore bow down to my way of doing things before we can discuss. I am genuinely asking you, non-rhetorically, as I have stated several times: how do you suggest we discuss this matter if you won't evidence your position?.
Please pick that up this time!!
Just in case you missed it above! Because it seems that you've ignored it so many times that I think since this time it's got two exact copies in this same post, at the beginning and end...maybe you'll actually answer it this time!! Or will you miss it again? I've said it a lot now!!
EvF