Brian37 Wrote:There is a HUGE difference between when a scientist guesses and when people pull shit out of their ass. If they had no science knowledge prior to build on, they wouldn't have been able to do that. They were still building on prior established science and still had to use the tool of method to confirm their "guess".
They were still basing it on physics and motion and math.
The Wright brothers simply didn't jump off a cliff and flap their arms.
I agree 100%. The difference though between those scientists and this thread is that we're not in the realm of science but of philosophy (note: we're not talking a specific theology either).
What you have to realise is that the truth about something exists whether we like it or not. It's like a tree falling in the forest but no one there to hear it. Did it make a noise? Yes. The truth is no different. You can't be in the presence of truth if one is ignorant much like you can't be in the presence of the tree falling by being somewhere else geographically, but that doesn't mean that the truth isn't there or that the tree didn't make a noise.
Calling these questions 'mental masturbation' doesn't make them go away. It simply means you've let yourself out of the room through ignorance.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle