(June 10, 2012 at 4:37 am)FallentoReason Wrote: What's TL,DR mean?
This thread is meant to demonstrate that there are more plausible gods that could eventually exist than gods that violate the universe. The scale is a way of knowing roughly where one can stop and not be able to disprove the plausibility of a god. Therefore, taking it one step further, I think the probability that a sort of god could eventually exist becomes rather high. I don't know how one could go from the plausibility of said god to showing that it is real.
Too Long, Didn't Read. Used to be common on teh interwebz.
Yes, but your thread started taking on the stance that atheists are left with no option but a belief in some plausible God when they get however far down your scale it takes for that version of G-d to be unfalsifiable, and that is simply wrong, is it not?
The probability of a God existing and its existence are separate, and you seem to be bordering on an argument from ignorance in that you are saying that a plausible God is a likely God.
Like I said before, just because you can create a mental God who fits the criterion the universe arbitrates doesn't make that particular God or any Gods like it any more likely to exist than Russell's teapot.
Quote:What's Dawkin's scale?
Mentioned as a way of judging belief in a higher power in The God Delusion, Richard Dawkin's scale determines to what extent you can hold to the belief that a given God exists. Varying degrees require varying certainty, and while God can exist in a personally satisfactory way, or rather, be more likely when he has reached a level of plausibility that satiates the palette of the individual, that God cannot rise above a 1 because he lacks evidence. And this might be rather haphazard of me, but in order to prove anything, including God, you need evidence.
(Evidence can be logical, as long as it is based on reality and not some metaphysical daydream, abstracted and sundered from any trace of actuality.)
My conclusion is that there is no reason to believe any of the dogmas of traditional theology and, further, that there is no reason to wish that they were true.
Man, in so far as he is not subject to natural forces, is free to work out his own destiny. The responsibility is his, and so is the opportunity.
-Bertrand Russell
Man, in so far as he is not subject to natural forces, is free to work out his own destiny. The responsibility is his, and so is the opportunity.
-Bertrand Russell