(June 9, 2012 at 8:57 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Here is the problem, this would be the case IF God doesn't exist. I can appreciate you believe that, but if God exists, and he is the eternal basis of morality, and so morality points to eternal basis, etc, why wouldn't it be knowledge?
Wrong formulation. Saying "if morality has an eternal basis, then that basis is god" is different than saying "if god exists, then morality has an eternal basis". Even with god's existence, morality need not have an eternal basis. The first argument is wrong as well, since that eternal basis can still be something other than god. Further, morality most definitely does not have an eternal basis. So your argument fails on all three levels.
(June 9, 2012 at 8:57 am)MysticKnight Wrote: To me spiritual knowledge is possible if we have a soul and God exists. So why I should I assume spiritual belief is always a delusion?
To me, it seems the logical thing to do, is to ask myself if it's genuine knowledge as opposed to simply a "hunch". But to be honest, to me I see these things like I see things with my physical eyes.
Logical you say? That's funny, given that the statement is rife with logical fallacies. According to you, spiritual knowledge would be gained if god/soul exists and the knowledge of its existence (spiritual in itself) can be gained by through it - that's circular reasoning. The reason you should presume spiritual belief to be a delusion is because it contradicts the reality around you.