The Great Virgin Mother Isis - Ancient Mythology is not a Cheeseburger

[michaelsherlock]

Michael;I'd prefer you didn't preach at me, there's a good chap. I really don't care about your personal values ,and find your judgment of mine and of my character facile and impertinent.

Sorry Paddy, didn't mean it to be judgy! Just thought you might not have realized how your abuse can affect others. Sorry.

Yes I read your paper and the article linked and do not agree with your conclusion.

Perfectly acceptable. If you have any specific reasons, backed with reliable scholarship, I would be interested to know.

We may need to agree to differ.

Not necessarily. Try to bring me over to your point of view, or at least share it, backed with reliable scholarship.

I have no intention in trying to teach you; THAT would be presumptuous, based on what you have said about your scholastic background.

Everyone can learn from everyone (bar fundies), in my "hippy" opinion.

My apologies,;I really did not get that impression from your paper.

No need for apologies.

My own approach is based on structural functionalism. However, although aware of the universality of many myths, I am very careful about conflating correlation and causation,which is what I think you have done.

Fair enough. We all see things differently based on our subjective experiences in life.

(if I accepted your premise,which I do not) Isis was the sister-wife of Osiris,therefore not a virgin by definition.

So then, Mary, being the wife of Joseph, was not deemed a virgin either? According to your formula, wife equals non-virgin. Say for example that in the distant future, the Gospels of John and Mark were the predominant sources of the Christ myth, as for whatever reason the rest of the New Testament was abolished, yet there still remained ruins of churches and extra-biblical texts, which applied the virgin mother epithet to Mary, would it be accurate to say that Mary was never associated with such an epithet (Virgin mother)? For this seems to be the case with Isis, plus her well documented amalgamation with other Hellenistic, and other cultural Goddesses, who did expressly bare that title.

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PS am I suffering from toxic disinhibition? I'm suspicious of self-diagnosis and don't know you well enough to trust your assessment. OF course I concede it's possible,even likely,although I can be almost as obnoxious in person.

That was funny.

I assure you I'm acutely aware of my many faults. I'm also acutely aware of how little success I've had over a lifetime (I'm now 64) in changing the things I don't like about myself. Here,on this forum,my only obligation is to obey the rules. I am here because it suits me,not to meet the expectations of strangers.

Understood.