(June 18, 2012 at 6:00 am)FallentoReason Wrote:Taqqiya Mockingbird Wrote:Yes, I read it and that's what I meant. You are special pleading a god-figure that could create the universe "but not through intervention" Colanth is calling you on it and you are repeating your bullshit special pleading ad nauseum.Colanth Wrote:Oops. Creation is also intervention, so creation when there's nothing is impossible. Your logic, not mine. (And it's not creation if anything already exists.)
Colanth assumes creation is intervention without any explanation.
I do not think that is the case.
Quote: If you haven't realised, around half the thread has been about establishing this point.
The entire thread has been about you making shit up as you go along to try and push a god-of-the-gaps argument. And we all know about arguments not being evidence, and god-of-the-gaps arguments being bullshit.
Quote: Therefore, Colanth isn't calling me on anything because he hasn't added anything new to the discussion with this already-made assertion.
Calling you on your making bullshit up as you go is indeed nothing new.
Quote:Quote:It is just that you REFUSE TO SEE what is in front of you. Your claim of creation ""without intervention" is a special pleading. That was quite clear from the way I quoted it. Your playing dumb isn't fooling anyone.
Thank you for cooperating. How is creation without intervention special pleading? Guide me through your thought process of why creation is intervention.
"Creation" would require a "creator" (which you have not and cannot establish the existence of) to INTERVENE with the status quo.
Quote:Quote:Your lie (this time) is your claim of "creation without intervention". What I know about "creation" is that it's bullshit made up by pathological liars in a failed attempt to conform their superstitious fairy tales to what we now know of science. It's not that fucking hard to figure out.
We're talking Deist gods, so you're way off the mark.
The idea of "deist gods" is another bullshit special pleading. It's simply wading in evasive vagueness in a failed attempt to avoid yoru burden of proof for ANY assertion of (a) god(s).