Deism for non-believers

[FallentoReason]

To be honest, I think you're using intervention as a weasel word. Separating the immaterial and the material is a strange exercise to me, but if you want to use the word intervention in the way that you have decided to use it you have no other choice. Now I'm going to have to ask you to provide justification for this definition by reference to the "immaterial world", which I'm guessing you can't do. Bit of a hail mary there, when attempting to rule in creation of the material world and avoid the disqualifying criteria of "intervention" -that you yourself set- you are compelled to invoke the existence of the immaterial world (which is yet another thing I'm guessing you've never seen) as a bare assertion in support of the definition which you have pinned your argument on, again leading me to ask why the axe hasn't fallen. Are we attempting to double down on the absurdities?

I assert a-therefore b ad naus...hmn, let me see. There is an immaterial world, and so creation is not intervention in the material world (ergo i don't have to rule it out). -Gonna have to do a bit of work on the immaterial world here aren't we?-

Well I guess the whole 'god' topic hinges on the assumption that a material world exists. I can't even begin imagining what an immaterial world would be like, but by definition I can imagine what it's not.

I think intervention can still be defined even if we don't have an understanding of the assumed immaterial world though. For example, let's think of our material world as a football match. Now for the sake of argument, suppose a streaker-to-be is standing on the side and he represents our plausible god. For the streaker to be able to invervene in the match, the match has to be in play. If there is not match, then how does the streaker intervene in it? Now, with creation, I have to say I have some trouble imagining the process and whether that process can be seen as intervention. If you agreed with my example that intervention requires the material world, then how can the creation of said material world simultaneously be the intervening in that world? I just can't wrap my head around the whole situation actually..