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Positive claims and atheists
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RE: Positive claims and atheists
July 10, 2012 at 9:34 pm
(July 10, 2012 at 1:17 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote:
(July 10, 2012 at 12:27 pm)Jeffonthenet Wrote: People keep calling God an imaginary friend, a myth, and saying that believing in Him is like believing in Batman. However, by the standard of evidence that atheists seem to require of me, they say that positive claims require positive evidence. Now, saying that believing in God is like believing in Batman is a positive claim, so I ask, where is the evidence?

Jeff,

None of the statements in your OP are positive claims; they are simply unflatering characterizations of a belief in God. Were an atheist to make the claim, "God does not exist" They would invite the burden of proof and would have to proove the non-existence of God. This is why intellectually honest atheists adopt an agnostic stance towards God and simply reject the belief as an unprovable claim.

Can it be said that the Christian God doesn't exist though? I think it can because once you define a god you then have something to work with. The CHRISTian God obviously depends on the claims about Jesus being true, and we all know how that ends.
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Positive claims and atheists - by Jeffonthenet - July 10, 2012 at 12:27 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Kayenneh - July 10, 2012 at 12:29 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Cato - July 10, 2012 at 12:30 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Jeffonthenet - July 10, 2012 at 11:16 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Jackalope - July 10, 2012 at 11:27 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Jeffonthenet - July 11, 2012 at 12:17 am
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Jackalope - July 11, 2012 at 12:53 am
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Strongbad - July 11, 2012 at 2:42 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by KnockEmOuttt - July 11, 2012 at 3:15 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Skepsis - July 11, 2012 at 6:48 am
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Mister Agenda - July 11, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Cato - July 10, 2012 at 11:49 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Kayenneh - July 10, 2012 at 12:35 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 10, 2012 at 12:42 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Reforged - July 10, 2012 at 12:43 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Jeffonthenet - July 10, 2012 at 11:05 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 11, 2012 at 10:37 am
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Paul the Human - July 10, 2012 at 12:55 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Rhizomorph13 - July 10, 2012 at 1:17 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by FallentoReason - July 10, 2012 at 9:34 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Rhizomorph13 - July 10, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by FallentoReason - July 10, 2012 at 10:25 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Welsh cake - July 10, 2012 at 1:43 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by downbeatplumb - July 10, 2012 at 1:47 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Nine - July 10, 2012 at 1:51 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Kayenneh - July 10, 2012 at 1:53 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Nine - July 10, 2012 at 1:56 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Nine - July 10, 2012 at 2:19 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Erinome - July 10, 2012 at 2:30 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by padraic - July 10, 2012 at 7:22 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Anomalocaris - July 10, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Re: Positive claims and atheists - by NoraBrimstone - July 10, 2012 at 11:11 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Epimethean - July 10, 2012 at 11:41 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Minimalist - July 11, 2012 at 12:05 am
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by KnockEmOuttt - July 11, 2012 at 4:29 am
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Gambit - July 11, 2012 at 11:17 am
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 11, 2012 at 11:43 am
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by The Grand Nudger - July 11, 2012 at 1:39 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Paul the Human - July 11, 2012 at 6:49 pm

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