RE: Question for both Christians and Muslims.
July 10, 2012 at 10:32 pm
(This post was last modified: July 10, 2012 at 10:33 pm by Reforged.)
(July 10, 2012 at 5:53 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(July 10, 2012 at 1:45 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: In case of Christianity:
Is it that disbelievers are to be damned for disbelieving or do disbelievers disbelieve because they are damned?
Disbelievers damn themselves (here and now). Predestination would suggest God already knows for sure. In the end, all are drawn to him. So none are damned eternally (an abused translation).
Could you specify which God exactly? Just so we're all certain about who you're talking about here.
(July 10, 2012 at 6:40 pm)Godschild Wrote:(July 10, 2012 at 6:07 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I don't mean they are pre-destined to be damned. I mean in the sense, they are in a damned state.
Until one sees that they are in a lost condition because of sin and then becomes a believer are here and now damned.
I've said this once and I'll say it again.
You must of done some seriously dark shit to want to believe that GC.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die."
- Abdul Alhazred.
- Abdul Alhazred.