A good case against God

[Jeffonthenet]

"I also disagree that the existence of God is an extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence. God's existence has been, conversely, taken for granted up until the enlightenment."

Uh. No. And before we can possibly get you to understand why that is wrong, you need to deal with the issue of your disbelief in other gods as pointed out to you elsewhere. You see, you're an atheist, too.

As far as I can tell this gives me no reason to think that the existence of God is an extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence. Perhaps you could be more explicit about what you are claiming here.

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Can anyone give me a good case against the existence of God that can stand up to scrutiny?

What, you mean other than the complete lack of anything that could constitute evidence of any such thing ever having of existed?

It seems to me that the absence of evidence is evidence of absence only in the case that we should expect to have more evidence than we have.

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'You're deliberately trying to avoid the burden of proof.'

its you who is avoiding the burden of proof. all i'm saying is that both sides should show arguments and try to debunk each other.

also, to say that number 3 is wrong you have to give a reason. otherwise you are saying that purely on your own opinion without the the slightest shred of evidence to support it. if you do give evidence you are just reinforcing no. 3 so there is no logic 'false'

If all atheists were amking a positive claim in "I don't believe there to be a God or God(s)"

It isn't true of atheists that they don't believe there to be a God or Gods?

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These discussions are always so pointless and trivial. Let me edit slightly your justification Jeff:

I don't care what you call yourself or me… I believe, like many many other Muslims based on the personal experience of Allah. Yet personal experience is by definition unsharable, so I cannot communicate to you that experience, I can only testify to you based on my experience. Why am I obligated to prove Allah in this case?

And the answer to your question is that you're no different to any other theist dead or alive, Muslim or even Mayan/whatever-other-myth-believer claims to have felt. Therefore, why is your god right and theirs wrong? This is where evidence would actually set you apart.

The evidence I experience is virtually impossible to deny. Since it testifies of the God of Jesus Christ as portrayed in the bible, it is evident that it is not the God of muslims since they teach contradictory things about Jesus and God.