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Positive claims and atheists
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RE: Positive claims and atheists
Jeffonthenet Wrote:There is also no proof that the external world exists and that you are not in the matrix, or that the world didn't pop into being five minutes ago with the appearance of age--that there is a past. There are likewise no proof for basic logical principles because to argue for their truth would be to presuppose them and so be arguing in a circle.

Therefore, I believe I have shown that you are not justified in considering something absurdly fictional simply because you cannot prove that this something exists as I have given you things that we all rationally believe (the existence of the external world, the past, basic logical principles), yet we don't have evidence for their truth.

OK, let me get this straight. So you're arguing that we should believe that God exists because we don't know if what we perceive as being real actually is? Do you play Chess often? Because you just check-mated yourself. Think about it.
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Positive claims and atheists - by Jeffonthenet - July 10, 2012 at 12:27 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Kayenneh - July 10, 2012 at 12:29 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Cato - July 10, 2012 at 12:30 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Jeffonthenet - July 10, 2012 at 11:16 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Jackalope - July 10, 2012 at 11:27 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Jeffonthenet - July 11, 2012 at 12:17 am
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Jackalope - July 11, 2012 at 12:53 am
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Strongbad - July 11, 2012 at 2:42 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by KnockEmOuttt - July 11, 2012 at 3:15 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Skepsis - July 11, 2012 at 6:48 am
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Mister Agenda - July 11, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Cato - July 10, 2012 at 11:49 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Kayenneh - July 10, 2012 at 12:35 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 10, 2012 at 12:42 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Reforged - July 10, 2012 at 12:43 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Jeffonthenet - July 10, 2012 at 11:05 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 11, 2012 at 10:37 am
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Paul the Human - July 10, 2012 at 12:55 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Rhizomorph13 - July 10, 2012 at 1:17 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by FallentoReason - July 10, 2012 at 9:34 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Rhizomorph13 - July 10, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by FallentoReason - July 10, 2012 at 10:25 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Welsh cake - July 10, 2012 at 1:43 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by downbeatplumb - July 10, 2012 at 1:47 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Nine - July 10, 2012 at 1:51 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Kayenneh - July 10, 2012 at 1:53 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Nine - July 10, 2012 at 1:56 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Nine - July 10, 2012 at 2:19 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Erinome - July 10, 2012 at 2:30 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by padraic - July 10, 2012 at 7:22 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Anomalocaris - July 10, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Re: Positive claims and atheists - by NoraBrimstone - July 10, 2012 at 11:11 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Epimethean - July 10, 2012 at 11:41 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Minimalist - July 11, 2012 at 12:05 am
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by KnockEmOuttt - July 11, 2012 at 4:29 am
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Gambit - July 11, 2012 at 11:17 am
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 11, 2012 at 11:43 am
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by The Grand Nudger - July 11, 2012 at 1:39 pm
RE: Positive claims and atheists - by Paul the Human - July 11, 2012 at 6:49 pm

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