Where's the Justice?

[Welsh cake]

This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.

You have not answered my question. Why should we love god and why should this god love us?

You're not making any sense.

Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us."

Why to any of this?

Spouses and parents are metaphors for the depth of love that could exist between us and God. They are to help us understand a relationship high above our comprehension.

What a stupid thing to say. It doesn't add anything to the debate, nor invoke feelings of mysticism or wonder or awe to the discussion, it just makes you look like a prat.

If you can't comprehend it then why even talk about the topics you admit you know relatively nothing about.

Come back later when *you* understand what it is you're talking about.

God does not need us to do anything for Him because He is all powerful.

Contradiction. You said this thing wants our devotion. Why does it need our love?

I don't know why God chooses to love us

End of discussion then.

Come back when you do know and not just mindlessly quoting the scriptures in vain.

With Jesus, our death will no longer be eternal.

I find the fact of eternal oblivion to be wonderful. Its true peace and everlasting freedom from the chains of reality and the burden of identity. Its greater than your silly god concept.

The death we have now is only a means of passing from this life into the next in heaven.

So according to your theology Jesus is the fucker responsible for eternal condemnation then? Hmm... some saviour.