RE: As time goes by
September 7, 2009 at 12:47 am
(This post was last modified: September 7, 2009 at 1:14 am by ecolox.)
(September 6, 2009 at 12:51 pm)Kyuuketsuki Wrote:(September 6, 2009 at 12:29 pm)ecolox Wrote: Do really you think that what is morally good changes with time?
Yes, morality is an ethical system, ethics are defined by society and are relative to it. What's more it is quite evidence (even using your own bible as an historical source) that morality changes over time.
So the ethics defined by the Nazis were relative to it. Could you honestly oppose such a society? How?
As I'll always ask - care to back up your claim at all - this time about the Bible and morphing morality?
Kyuuketsuki Wrote:(September 6, 2009 at 12:29 pm)ecolox Wrote: E.g. Will murder (condemned years ago) be ok in such and such years - accommodating futuristic attitudes, lifestyles, or circumstances (maybe overpopulation)?
Murder is a legal concept (the illegal killing of an individual) and only reflects morality in a rights based society. According to your bible genocide, indeed the wiping out of an entire world's population all bar 8, was justifiable in moral terms.
Are you saying that murder could be fine by you, if a society defined it as such (like the Nazis did) or not?
Can a person be legally killed (as in the Biblical example)? What are you getting at exactly? Be plain, if you will.
(September 6, 2009 at 4:02 pm)Saerules Wrote: It does, and atheism has remained exactly the same since the human specie ever evolved. In fact, it has remained exactly the same since the 'beginning' of the universe. Theism, on the other hand, is positively new.
What do you mean "the 'beginning' of the universe"? Don't atheists think that, at the very least, the potential for our current predicament has always existed? Now, how does that work?
Also, why do you define atheism in terms of human evolution? If atheism only requires a lack of belief then even a box of rocks qualifies as atheistic - so shouldn't you say atheism has remained exactly the same for eternity - long before the beginning? Wouldn't that be more accurate? "Build your house on atheism, been around since before the beginning".
Minimalist Wrote:So is a fresh cow turd but I see no reason to worship one.
What does an atheist hold in high esteem or worship? Not God, not a fresh cow turd, what then? What does an atheist live for - if you don't mind my asking?