(July 16, 2012 at 8:04 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Well we know anything that would make it less great he cannot be. So for example, if he lacks compassion, and that would make him less great, then he cannot lack that. Therefore whatever what make him greater, he must have, because he doesn't lack greatness, and whatever would make him less great, he doesn't have, because he doesn't lack greatness. Ofcourse, we can't fully fathom ultimate compassion or ultimate love or ultimate goodness or ultimate power, but by virtue of knowledge that he is ultimately great, we know these attributes are a must.
A proof of premise 2, is that we know there is potential of greatness and there is no limit towards that. This we can see when we imagine super heroes in shows and anime, we make people greater then people we know of in real life. When coming across to imaginary super individuals, if objective greatness is true, one would surely be greater. But we can't imagine all levels of greatness, but we know potential is there. But as humans, we often have faulty logic of what is greater or not. There seems to be a need of knowledge that would be the basis to our knowledge of greatness, for whatever level of greatness we can perceive and whatever possible great beings can perceive.
So from this thought process, from what we know of greatness, there seems to be a need of source that contains knowledge of all greatness.
In short, if objective greatness were to exist, all possible greatness must have a basis, and if all possible greatness has a basis, so does the ultimate level of it have a basis.
It doesn't seem to make much sense, that we say objective greatness exists, but only to the extent of our limited perception and anything beyond that is not greatness.
I don't think 'objective greatness' makes any sense because 'great' is an entirely subjective term. There are several questions which need answers:
♥ How do we objectively define 'great'?
♥ What is the base unit of greatness?
♥ Why this unit as opposed to any hypothetical other?
♥ How can I objectively measure greatness?
♥ How does greatness prove the existence of ultimate greatness?
♥ If there is an ultimate greatness, how do you prove that it is Yahweh as opposed to any other deity with a similar claim?