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The year of whose lord?
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RE: The year of whose lord?
(July 23, 2012 at 3:50 am)padraic Wrote:
Quote:but it doesn't change the fact that the bible as we know it to be written is mostly true to the original translation

Umm,not quite. There is not now and has almost certainly never been a single accurate translation of the original texts since they were written,nearly 2000 years ago.

The New Testament known today is replete with mistranslations, later insertions, censorship, errors and forgeries. (especially the Epistles)
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Reference:

'Misquoting Jesus' Bart Ehrman.


Quote:Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why is a book by Bart D. Ehrman, a New Testament scholar at University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.[1] The book introduces lay readers to the field of textual criticism of the Bible. Ehrman discusses a number of textual variants that resulted from intentional or accidental manuscript changes during the scriptorium era. The book, which made it to the New York Times Best Seller list, is available in hardcover and paperback.[2]


Quote:Summary

Ehrman recounts his personal experience with the study of the Bible and textual criticism. He summarizes the history of textual criticism, from the works of Desiderius Erasmus to the present. The book describes an early Christian environment in which the books that would later compose the New Testament were copied by hand, mostly by Christian amateurs. Ehrman concludes that various early scribes altered the New Testament texts in order to deemphasize the role of women in the early church, to unify and harmonize the different portrayals of Jesus in the four gospels, and to oppose certain heresies (such as Adoptionism). Ehrman contends that certain widely-held Christian beliefs, such about the divinity of Jesus, are associated not with the original words of scripture but with these later alterations.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misquoting_Jesus

I should clarify then, I mean the bible as accepted by the christian faith, not the original documents as written 2000 years ago. I've been to many christian churches and I've never seen any of them use the original Greek or Hebrew. It's usually KJV or NAS or NRSV, so that's what I'm going on. If you want to get into the nitty gritty of historical details, yes some things are lost in translation, but the original bible (and I have gone through many versions more closely based on original texts) is still riddled with inaccuracies and contradictions.
You really believe in a man who has helped to save the world twice, with the power to change his physical appearance? An alien who travels though time and space--in a police box?!? [Image: TARDIS.gif]
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The year of whose lord? - by Erinome - July 22, 2012 at 7:37 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Minimalist - July 22, 2012 at 7:48 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by padraic - July 22, 2012 at 7:55 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Erinome - July 22, 2012 at 7:59 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by jonb - July 22, 2012 at 9:30 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Minimalist - July 22, 2012 at 8:14 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by cratehorus - July 22, 2012 at 8:38 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Annik - July 22, 2012 at 8:40 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Drich - July 22, 2012 at 9:26 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Erinome - July 22, 2012 at 9:55 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Drich - July 22, 2012 at 10:37 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by jonb - July 22, 2012 at 10:04 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Minimalist - July 22, 2012 at 9:51 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Drich - July 22, 2012 at 10:32 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by C.W. Sims - July 22, 2012 at 10:05 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by KnockEmOuttt - July 22, 2012 at 11:05 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Erinome - July 22, 2012 at 10:09 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by jonb - July 22, 2012 at 11:11 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Minimalist - July 22, 2012 at 10:26 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Erinome - July 22, 2012 at 10:32 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by C.W. Sims - July 22, 2012 at 10:37 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Erinome - July 22, 2012 at 10:37 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Drich - July 22, 2012 at 10:50 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Erinome - July 22, 2012 at 11:01 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Drich - July 22, 2012 at 11:25 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Cinjin - July 22, 2012 at 11:08 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Shell B - July 22, 2012 at 11:18 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Drich - July 22, 2012 at 11:28 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by jonb - July 22, 2012 at 11:55 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Minimalist - July 22, 2012 at 11:26 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Minimalist - July 22, 2012 at 11:29 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Drich - July 22, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Cinjin - July 23, 2012 at 12:02 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Reforged - July 23, 2012 at 12:10 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Drich - July 23, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by KnockEmOuttt - July 23, 2012 at 12:28 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Drich - July 23, 2012 at 12:55 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by KnockEmOuttt - July 23, 2012 at 2:00 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Cinjin - July 23, 2012 at 12:36 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Drich - July 23, 2012 at 1:09 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by jonb - July 23, 2012 at 12:37 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Reforged - July 23, 2012 at 1:04 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Drich - July 23, 2012 at 1:17 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Reforged - July 23, 2012 at 1:38 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Drich - July 23, 2012 at 9:13 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Cinjin - July 23, 2012 at 9:22 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Drich - July 23, 2012 at 9:32 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Cinjin - July 23, 2012 at 9:43 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Creed of Heresy - July 23, 2012 at 12:07 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Drich - July 23, 2012 at 2:48 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Norfolk And Chance - July 23, 2012 at 11:49 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by KnockEmOuttt - July 25, 2012 at 2:58 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Cinjin - July 23, 2012 at 12:43 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Minimalist - July 23, 2012 at 1:10 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Minimalist - July 23, 2012 at 1:30 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Erinome - July 23, 2012 at 1:36 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Annik - July 23, 2012 at 1:58 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Drich - July 23, 2012 at 9:24 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Cinjin - July 23, 2012 at 9:29 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Annik - July 24, 2012 at 11:42 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Drich - July 24, 2012 at 12:32 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Hovik - July 24, 2012 at 12:44 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by padraic - July 23, 2012 at 3:50 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by KnockEmOuttt - July 23, 2012 at 4:14 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Faith No More - July 23, 2012 at 8:07 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Gooders1002 - July 23, 2012 at 11:42 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Shell B - July 23, 2012 at 3:34 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Drich - July 23, 2012 at 4:47 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Norfolk And Chance - July 23, 2012 at 3:56 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Annik - July 24, 2012 at 12:44 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Jackalope - July 24, 2012 at 12:49 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Drich - July 24, 2012 at 2:39 pm
RE: The year of whose lord? - by Annik - July 25, 2012 at 11:30 am
RE: The year of whose lord? - by The Grand Nudger - July 24, 2012 at 3:08 pm

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