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Assault On Free Speech
RE: Assault On Free Speech
(August 1, 2012 at 10:08 am)Rhythm Wrote: Hyperbole, you mean the very thing I'm characterizing this as an issue of?

Then one of us is drunk, cause I'm not following you.

(August 1, 2012 at 9:35 am)Stue Denim Wrote: I'm not saying that not being able to opens stores with illegal products is a necessarily a free speech issue (depends on the product =P), but it would be if they wanted to shut down/shut out your fast food chain based on your stated support for whorehouses being legal, legislative reform to that effect, and financial contributions to such causes, as is the case with chick-a-fil-a, then it most certainly is.

If a town can prohibit bars & strip clubs in their area for moral reasons then it stands that same town can prohibit fast food restaurants that donate to (what the town considers) immoral causes.

Let's not forget that Chik-fil-a is giving money to groups that have stated that "the government has a moral duty to legislate morality"

It cuts both ways.


(August 1, 2012 at 10:08 am)Rhythm Wrote: Hyperbole, you mean the very thing I'm characterizing this as an issue of?

If you say -

"The City of (so-and-so) is attempting to prevent me from establishing a business which is plainly and clearly lawful under the statues so and so (x40) set forth in such and such, as recognized by the State of (Wherever), and City of (BFE)"

or

"My right to free speech is being threatened!"

Which do you think is going to make better headlines for the rags? Which will polarize people to one side of the issue or the other more thoroughly?

The first example doesn't give a reason & the second doesn't give a cause, but I really still can't see how either are hyperbole. The second example is true if you believe the bullshit that money = free speech.
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - July 30, 2012 at 10:14 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - July 30, 2012 at 10:19 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Minimalist - July 30, 2012 at 1:54 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Autumnlicious - July 30, 2012 at 2:17 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Tiberius - July 30, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Erinome - July 30, 2012 at 2:19 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by ElijahDrew - July 30, 2012 at 10:54 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 30, 2012 at 2:22 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Minimalist - July 30, 2012 at 2:45 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - July 30, 2012 at 2:48 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Faith No More - July 30, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - July 30, 2012 at 3:17 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 30, 2012 at 3:36 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Erinome - July 30, 2012 at 3:55 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 30, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Faith No More - July 30, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Darth - July 31, 2012 at 6:21 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Thor - July 30, 2012 at 4:20 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Erinome - July 30, 2012 at 4:22 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Thor - July 30, 2012 at 4:31 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Erinome - July 30, 2012 at 4:33 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Thor - July 30, 2012 at 5:53 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by 5thHorseman - July 30, 2012 at 4:38 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Autumnlicious - July 30, 2012 at 4:46 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 30, 2012 at 6:01 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Tempus - July 30, 2012 at 6:19 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 30, 2012 at 8:53 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 31, 2012 at 12:12 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 31, 2012 at 12:50 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by 5thHorseman - July 30, 2012 at 6:49 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by 5thHorseman - July 30, 2012 at 5:08 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Minimalist - July 30, 2012 at 5:59 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 30, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 30, 2012 at 10:01 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Minimalist - July 30, 2012 at 10:26 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 30, 2012 at 10:14 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 30, 2012 at 11:08 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 30, 2012 at 10:48 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Minimalist - July 31, 2012 at 1:18 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - July 30, 2012 at 10:49 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 30, 2012 at 11:34 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 30, 2012 at 11:52 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 30, 2012 at 11:56 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by CliveStaples - July 31, 2012 at 3:53 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 31, 2012 at 12:03 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 31, 2012 at 1:08 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 31, 2012 at 3:27 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 31, 2012 at 11:47 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - July 31, 2012 at 6:07 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - July 31, 2012 at 9:07 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Ryantology - July 31, 2012 at 3:57 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - July 31, 2012 at 4:48 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by padraic - July 31, 2012 at 3:41 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Autumnlicious - July 31, 2012 at 11:40 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by CliveStaples - July 31, 2012 at 4:42 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 31, 2012 at 11:44 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Autumnlicious - July 31, 2012 at 11:45 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by downbeatplumb - July 31, 2012 at 11:52 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Minimalist - July 31, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Faith No More - July 31, 2012 at 3:33 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by CliveStaples - July 31, 2012 at 4:52 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 31, 2012 at 6:41 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by CliveStaples - July 31, 2012 at 6:52 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - July 31, 2012 at 6:57 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - July 31, 2012 at 7:24 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 31, 2012 at 4:56 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by CliveStaples - July 31, 2012 at 5:16 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 31, 2012 at 6:01 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by CliveStaples - July 31, 2012 at 6:04 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 31, 2012 at 6:12 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by CliveStaples - July 31, 2012 at 6:38 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Faith No More - July 31, 2012 at 4:57 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - July 31, 2012 at 5:52 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - July 31, 2012 at 5:19 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Autumnlicious - July 31, 2012 at 6:18 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by LastPoet - July 31, 2012 at 6:28 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Reforged - July 31, 2012 at 7:34 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Ryantology - July 31, 2012 at 7:42 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Reforged - July 31, 2012 at 7:50 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by padraic - July 31, 2012 at 7:54 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Reforged - July 31, 2012 at 7:58 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 31, 2012 at 7:56 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by CliveStaples - July 31, 2012 at 8:05 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - July 31, 2012 at 7:59 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 31, 2012 at 8:17 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by CliveStaples - July 31, 2012 at 8:30 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - July 31, 2012 at 11:03 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by padraic - July 31, 2012 at 11:18 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Minimalist - July 31, 2012 at 11:18 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by KnockEmOuttt - July 31, 2012 at 11:42 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by downbeatplumb - August 1, 2012 at 6:15 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 1, 2012 at 6:22 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by downbeatplumb - August 1, 2012 at 6:25 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 1, 2012 at 6:32 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by downbeatplumb - August 1, 2012 at 6:40 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2012 at 8:54 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by KichigaiNeko - August 1, 2012 at 9:30 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2012 at 9:22 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Darth - August 1, 2012 at 9:35 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2012 at 9:55 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2012 at 10:02 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 1, 2012 at 10:07 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by KichigaiNeko - August 1, 2012 at 10:04 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2012 at 10:08 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 1, 2012 at 10:10 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 1, 2012 at 3:35 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - August 1, 2012 at 6:40 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 1, 2012 at 7:28 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Reforged - August 1, 2012 at 7:57 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Ryantology - August 1, 2012 at 8:43 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 1, 2012 at 11:33 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Reforged - August 2, 2012 at 1:45 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 2, 2012 at 3:03 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 2, 2012 at 3:23 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by C.W. Sims - August 2, 2012 at 3:37 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 2, 2012 at 4:49 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - August 2, 2012 at 6:36 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 2, 2012 at 7:19 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Cato - August 2, 2012 at 7:43 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Tiberius - August 3, 2012 at 9:50 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Reforged - August 2, 2012 at 6:57 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 2, 2012 at 7:40 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 2, 2012 at 7:49 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 2, 2012 at 7:57 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 2, 2012 at 8:04 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Reforged - August 3, 2012 at 6:48 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 4, 2012 at 9:47 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Reforged - August 6, 2012 at 4:45 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 6, 2012 at 5:57 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Reforged - August 6, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - August 1, 2012 at 7:55 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 1, 2012 at 10:53 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Cato - August 1, 2012 at 11:47 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by padraic - August 1, 2012 at 9:24 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Minimalist - August 1, 2012 at 9:37 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - August 1, 2012 at 11:33 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 2, 2012 at 8:36 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by padraic - August 2, 2012 at 12:15 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 2, 2012 at 11:46 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by padraic - August 2, 2012 at 7:32 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2012 at 8:43 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2012 at 12:00 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - August 2, 2012 at 12:10 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by jackman - August 2, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 2, 2012 at 1:05 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - August 2, 2012 at 1:28 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jackalope - August 2, 2012 at 1:30 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Cato - August 2, 2012 at 12:10 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2012 at 1:06 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 2, 2012 at 1:36 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 2, 2012 at 1:53 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - August 2, 2012 at 7:32 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by padraic - August 2, 2012 at 9:33 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 3, 2012 at 9:10 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Zen Badger - August 3, 2012 at 9:15 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 3, 2012 at 9:17 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 3, 2012 at 9:31 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 3, 2012 at 9:59 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - August 2, 2012 at 11:52 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - August 3, 2012 at 12:02 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - August 3, 2012 at 12:42 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by C.W. Sims - August 3, 2012 at 1:17 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Shell B - August 3, 2012 at 1:20 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by padraic - August 3, 2012 at 2:39 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Zen Badger - August 3, 2012 at 6:12 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by KichigaiNeko - August 3, 2012 at 6:16 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2012 at 1:19 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Jaysyn - August 3, 2012 at 6:04 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by KichigaiNeko - August 3, 2012 at 9:12 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by KichigaiNeko - August 3, 2012 at 9:33 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Tiberius - August 3, 2012 at 11:16 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - August 3, 2012 at 5:55 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by jackman - August 3, 2012 at 6:15 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2012 at 11:20 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - August 3, 2012 at 6:37 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Zen Badger - August 3, 2012 at 10:44 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by znk666 - August 4, 2012 at 4:26 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 4, 2012 at 9:58 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 4, 2012 at 10:52 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by The Grand Nudger - August 4, 2012 at 11:06 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by downbeatplumb - August 4, 2012 at 12:52 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by KichigaiNeko - August 5, 2012 at 8:19 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Lion IRC - August 5, 2012 at 2:31 pm
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by A Theist - August 6, 2012 at 9:18 am
RE: Assault On Free Speech - by Cato - August 6, 2012 at 6:04 pm

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