(August 1, 2012 at 3:33 pm)Godschild Wrote:(July 31, 2012 at 9:52 pm)catfish Wrote: I'm just curious GC. Did the holy ghost teach you all of this?
You know, embrace pagan ideals and holidays, human sacrifice, non-forgiveness, sunday worship (on the pagan sun-god's day?), fear-mongering, etc.....
You're telling me what I believe, that's laughable, tell me sir what is the original Sabbath commandment. I embrace the Lord Jesus Christ, with respect and love, yes the Holy Spirit is my teacher, when I read scripture I ask for His guidance. If you want to do a comparative let's look at you and the language you are using, your attitude stinks too. Last but not least you can not even defend your position whatever that may be, we don't know you are to much of a coward to tell us.
(August 1, 2012 at 3:32 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: There are verses in the Bible that support a universalist interpretation. I wish anyone convinced of that good luck in convincing other Christians. Eternal torment is a contemptible doctrine, and both Christians and everyone around them wil be better off if it is jettisoned.
Jettison the truth, that seems to be the popular thing to do in this day and time. No one wants to face the truth if it does not fit their lives, and truth is truth no matter what one wants to believe, you can not change truth, all you can do is ignore it or call it something it's not.
(August 1, 2012 at 1:46 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: Thank you for confirming what I already suspected.
Oh and no, no its not the end by a long chalk. You've just marked the beginning.
What do you believe then?
Knowing the Bible cannot be taken literally and could be interpreted every which way how do you define your beliefs based upon it?
Couldn't you believe more or less what you want by carefully choosing and manipulating select quotes to mean what you want?
If I wanted to stone my nephews when they misbehave I could, according to the Bible. I don't even have to twist words to come to that conclusion, thats what it says:
Deuteronomy 21:18-21
“If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear"
Leviticus 20:9
"For anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother; his blood is upon him"
Whats to stop you believing and doing what you want?
That's what I've said about him, a cherry picker of the first order, he's not smart enough to pick verses remotely related to a subject.
How many times do I have to explain Deut. 21:18-21, this has nothing to do with small children, the children it speaks of are grown (adults) of that time. Just as you are the child of your parents, no matter how old you get, you will always be their child.
You cherry pick too, every theist of every sect thinks they have a tin foil hat communicator with the big guy upstairs. Quoting the bible is as impressive to me as quoting the Koran or Jewish texts.
"You're not reading it right" for any Muslim, Jew, Christian, or any damned religion with a holy text miss that all those books are are books of myth.
When a Christian argues with another Christian, or Christian argues with a Muslim, or a Jew argues with a Christian, I feel like I am at a si fi convention where a Star Wars fan is arguing with a Star Trek fan over their characters quotes and powers.
So you can quote a book, big deal. If I quote Harry Potter does that mean little boys can fly around on brooms?
