RE: A Real and Significant Biblical Contradiction?
August 7, 2012 at 1:57 pm
(This post was last modified: August 7, 2012 at 1:58 pm by Cato.)
(August 7, 2012 at 12:45 pm)CliveStaples Wrote: It's not an "excuse". It's a hole in the criticism of God; if you're going to say that God has certain obligations, you have to explain why. How, for instance, do you know that God doesn't have some unique relationship to humanity that isn't present in human-to-human ethics, but which necessitates obligations for God that are different from the human-to-human ethic? If you're sure that God does in fact have some particular obligation, you should be able to support it.Ok, clarification is required. I don't believe in god. My use of the term god is for convenience and is taken to mean the god of the bible. To be precise, when I use god I mean to say the fictional character created by ignorant Palestinian Jews in order to explain natural phenomena in the absence of scientific inquiry and to exercise a measure of crowd control. For this reason I have nothing to say about god's obligations. In fact, arguing that god does not have any obligations makes the Christian position more bizarre.
Based on your argument we can conclude that god is under no obligation to tell people the truth since he lied about the cure for leprosy. I'll get to the counterfactual bit in a moment, but he specifically gave them a useless prescription for curing the disease; therefore, a lie. How am I now supposed to take anything else in the bible as serious mandates from god? How am I to differentiate between a lie and truth from god?
Quote: But you don't know the counterfactual. What those particular people would do with that particular information...human behavior isn't that predictable. Unless somehow you know precisely how things would have gone down? Or perhaps you have some system of drawing inferences that lets you quantify how confident you are that a certain scenario would happen?
Let me get this straight. According to you, god had the foresight to not give his chosen people the cure for leprosy because of an unexplained alternate history, but didn't station the lightsaber wielding cherub until after the fall.
Why didn't god just remain silent regarding leprosy? What could possibly have been the purpose for the lie?