(August 15, 2012 at 7:15 am)pgrimes15 Wrote: Here is another question I asked at an Alpha course to which I received no answer - not even an unconvincing one!
I asked why there had to be a crucifixion. Couldn't Jesus have come to earth, done the miracles, sermon on the mount, last supper etc. then said “The Romans are coming to arrest me but they will not find me – I am going to my father - be nice to each other and I will return one day (as he ascended into Heaven).” that way you could still have the condition that you have to believe in Jesus but cut out the nasty crucifixion bit. The answer from the vicar was that the crucifixion was the heart of being a Christian. That seemed like circular logic to me – we are Christians because of the crucifixion and the crucifixion made us Christians.
Perhaps another one for the theists on this forum.
Regards
Grimesy
I think because saying.
"and god went home for a bit to atone for your sins" does not carry the same guilt burden as: "God had to be tortured and humiliated TO DEATH because you, yes you, could not stop touching yourself, you pathetic little excuse for a man"
Gotta pile on the guilt or the whole thing falls down.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.