Why was the crucifixion necessary ?

[Drich]

I think I spotted your problem, there.
Who told you that?

"we are told" Means we are told in the bible. It is akin to Jesus or Paul saying "it is written."

How did that person come to have that knowledge (use recursion here until you arrive at the origin of the knowledge)?

Romans 6:23 is the orgins of that principle.

To me, if there was a god, there wouldn't be any atheists.

1/2 right. In that if their was undeniable evidence of God their couldn't be any atheists. Which if you look at the big picture it would also mean free will would not be possible either. For self preservation (from Hell) would over ride any consciousness decision to separate oneself from God. However as it is (because of doubt) one can confidently separate himself from God in favor of any number of 'other' beliefs.

God would show it self to all....

If God's objective is to force everyone into Heaven despite what He or she may actually want deep down.

and there wouldn't be more than one "belief system"...

If God were to demand this then many by the token of our individuality would fall short of this one religion. As it is we are all to worship to the best of our ability. Now because we are all different our worship looks different, and the same grace that covers our sins also covers our failed worship. What is left is the purest form of worship one can give. (I went into this in detail in my "The reason for so many denominations" thread.)

well, then it wouldn't be much of a "belief".... it would just be known to all that god is "such and such", because he would... Tell us all, and keep reminding us all.... Always himself, never through strange ancient fallible gullible proxies.

which would undermine His stated reason for giving us this life. to choose where we are to spend eternity.


God plan for this life is to give us choice. True choice would not be possible if one knew of God, Heaven and Hell. For your fear of hell would distort any real choice that you would make. That is why knowledge of God is held back from those who will choose or have chosen to separate themselves from God.