(August 21, 2012 at 7:16 am)pgrimes15 Wrote:(August 21, 2012 at 6:39 am)Hoptoad Wrote: The example I use is when JC says, you know how to love your family's your children. Expand that love to all mankind, ALL, no exceptions, so I ask myself do my beliefs fit that example, if not then I wont do it. My reading of Christianity is that it is something I impose on myself not something that can be forced on to others.
What about Luke 14:26
“If any man come to Me and hate not his father and mother, and wife and children, and brethren and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple."
Are you cherry picking - surely not !!!
Faith - Gullibility
Too easily deceived or tricked, and too willing to believe everything that other people say - particularly when the collection plate is coming round.
Hope - Wishful thinking
Can be trivial as in "I hope the weather is nice when I have my barbecue"
or non-trivial as in "I hope I live forever" . ("of course you will live forever" says the priest - "just do as I say and by the way here's the collection plate")
Love - Sex and procreation
The true motivation behind almost all human activity. We spend much of our youth searching for the first, and much of our adult live protecting the second.
Regards
Grimesy
Toad
Thanks for that one. Now here's an interesting thing, you might like this. That is not the only version of that saying, in the gospel of Thomas it has another line.
Forgive me if you all ready know this, the gospel of Thomas was written about by the early Christians, not included in the bible and includes sayings of Jesus not included in the bible, it was lost during the period of orthodoxy in Rome.
Besides some fragments found elsewhere, the only existing copy was found at Nag Hammiadi with some other documents and some Gnostic writings, meaning that copy has never been in the hands of the Roman authority's. I have got to admit I find some of it baffling. Still here is portion 101.
101. "Whoever does not hate [father] and mother as I do cannot be my [disciple], and whoever does [not] love [father and] mother as I do cannot be my [disciple]. For my mother [...], but my true [mother] gave me life."
Not totally complete but at the moment all we got.
That's me off for a bit, I will pop in when I can.
