[quote='pocaracas' pid='325658' dateline='1345634690']
[quote]So, some guy writes a story. Claims he was inspired to write it by the very same being about which he's writing...
And you believe both the claim and the story. Can you imagine anyone doing that nowadays? What would be the outcome?
Would people believe it? or would they just dismiss it as nonsense?
Why shouldn't we dismiss that thousands of years old story as just such nonsense?[/quote]
what you guys either dissmiss or simply do not understand is with in that bible there are promises God makes through the words of the men who penned the bible, to each and everyone who follows the path of the believer. what makes the bible crediable is not what these men wrote 2000 years ago but the fact that each indivisual can test or hold God to the promises made.
The fact that God is full filling these promises 2000+ years after the accounts were first penned.
[quote]Besides, if god did inspire one guy to write such stories, what keeps him from inspiring all people?[/quote]No one guy wrote the bible. Several did.
[quote] Why should we all lesser humans believe this one guy's inspiration? Sounds mighty suspicious, to me.[/quote]One man several it does not really matter. What does is the account can be verified.
[quote]My questions about god are more about why would anyone believe that such a being exists. [/quote]
Because per said promises God has revealed Himself to the believer.
[quote]I've been waiting for him to show up for quite a while, but I still get nothing... [/quote]God (according to scripture) does not show up uninvited. so my question is did you invite Him?
[quote]
Eternal separation from god.
Why would that be so bad?[/quote]
For some it is not. There are those who spend their entire lives trying to put distance between themselves and God. For them being with God for eternity would be far worse than being seperated from Him.
[quote]Aye, self-preservation.
I can't love some guy who can put an end to soooo much misery around the world, but just doesn't.[/quote]
Again not everyone can. Some feel the need to judge God based on their own standard of righteousness, over looking their own short falls to scratch and claw their way to their own sense of moral high ground, just so a judgement can be levied against God theirby justifying their life's desisions. For people who dismiss God's righteousness for their own.. It is next to impossiable for them to Love God.
[quote]The demons... I believe they exist as much as your god does.[/quote]So do I.
[quote]Call it what you (and whoever came up with those terms)[/quote]The Greeks, 'Came up with those terms.' This is important because the New Testament was written in Greek. So to understand the greek is to better to understand what is written.
[quote]So, some guy writes a story. Claims he was inspired to write it by the very same being about which he's writing...
And you believe both the claim and the story. Can you imagine anyone doing that nowadays? What would be the outcome?
Would people believe it? or would they just dismiss it as nonsense?
Why shouldn't we dismiss that thousands of years old story as just such nonsense?[/quote]
what you guys either dissmiss or simply do not understand is with in that bible there are promises God makes through the words of the men who penned the bible, to each and everyone who follows the path of the believer. what makes the bible crediable is not what these men wrote 2000 years ago but the fact that each indivisual can test or hold God to the promises made.
The fact that God is full filling these promises 2000+ years after the accounts were first penned.
[quote]Besides, if god did inspire one guy to write such stories, what keeps him from inspiring all people?[/quote]No one guy wrote the bible. Several did.
[quote] Why should we all lesser humans believe this one guy's inspiration? Sounds mighty suspicious, to me.[/quote]One man several it does not really matter. What does is the account can be verified.
[quote]My questions about god are more about why would anyone believe that such a being exists. [/quote]
Because per said promises God has revealed Himself to the believer.
[quote]I've been waiting for him to show up for quite a while, but I still get nothing... [/quote]God (according to scripture) does not show up uninvited. so my question is did you invite Him?
[quote]
Eternal separation from god.
Why would that be so bad?[/quote]
For some it is not. There are those who spend their entire lives trying to put distance between themselves and God. For them being with God for eternity would be far worse than being seperated from Him.
[quote]Aye, self-preservation.
I can't love some guy who can put an end to soooo much misery around the world, but just doesn't.[/quote]
Again not everyone can. Some feel the need to judge God based on their own standard of righteousness, over looking their own short falls to scratch and claw their way to their own sense of moral high ground, just so a judgement can be levied against God theirby justifying their life's desisions. For people who dismiss God's righteousness for their own.. It is next to impossiable for them to Love God.
[quote]The demons... I believe they exist as much as your god does.[/quote]So do I.
[quote]Call it what you (and whoever came up with those terms)[/quote]The Greeks, 'Came up with those terms.' This is important because the New Testament was written in Greek. So to understand the greek is to better to understand what is written.
