(September 8, 2012 at 4:46 am)Godschild Wrote: Oh goody goody your an alter boy of a church that doesn't even believe in Christ the Messiah, yet you want to claim Peter as your hero. You do know Peter was a follower of Jesus Christ, no I guess you don't since you think the scriptures are a bunch of nonsense.
The Church of England confesses Jesus as the Messiah, the Son of God. But we are a progressive church and not a stick-in-the-mud superstitious church like the Baptists who look back with pride to their old witch-hunt days in Salem when innocent old women were burnt alive because they believed in one stupid verse written by bloodthirsty ancient Israelites who really didn't know better.
Our church consists of all kinds of people. There are the duffers (and they probably have the same childish understanding of the faith and very much like Baptists but at least they aren't fundies) and there are people who are really progressive. One example is our previous Archbishop of York who was a great scholar. He even questioned the historicity of Jesus. He said there was never a bloke called Jesus - I mean the one we mean (but of course there might have been all kinds of rascals named Jesus in those days but we aren't talking about those). I do believe our Jesus existed in history so in a sense, I'm not as progressive as that Archbishop. But our church is a progressive church and we allow people to think. We don't chain the minds of parishioners the way Baptists do it. Reason is one of the main tenets of the Church so we encourage doubts and scepticism.
(September 8, 2012 at 4:46 am)Godschild Wrote: Well if you want to do a little comparison deal we can, I'm an ordained deacon of the church, and deacons were part of the original church, they were doing work in the church long before there were Archbishops.
Ho Ho Ho! I am tickled pink. Who, pray tell, ordained you? You are all self-appointed priests and no doubt you were ordained by a self-appointed bishop who was installed by another heretical self-appointed archbishop. You see, if you are cut out from the Apostolic church, you can't do any ordaining. Don't you see it? You can only trace your church to the first time someone became a heretic and decided to spurn the holy baptism of mother church and there you have the first Baptist. I read somewhere he baptised himself and others!!! What a heresy!!!
(September 8, 2012 at 4:46 am)Godschild Wrote: The Baptist church baptizes with water as a symbol of our acceptance of Christ, the symbolism is identifying with the life of Christ in His death, burial and resurrection. The real baptism comes from the Holy Spirit, anointing true believers into the church of Christ ie. the family of God.
In the first place, all churches use water for baptism. The Baptist church just copied the mode used by the apostolic church, ie mine.
It's heresy to say there is another baptism. There is ONE baptism for the forgiveness of sins. That's in the Creed that even heretics like you recite.
(September 8, 2012 at 4:46 am)Godschild Wrote: Son you have a lot to learn, I suggest you get with it and find the truth about Christ. I can see that all you are interested in is being noticed, of coarse I guess that is what pimple faced prepubescent boys do.
As they say, sticks and stones....
Prepubescence is only a short-lived thing and in my case, it sure is going to be VERY short-lived. I don't think I need to be any more specific. Even the church pulled me out from the choir together with other boys. If prepubescence were a permanent feature, we'd be singing soprano all our lives. Read a biology book if you don't know this.
(September 8, 2012 at 4:24 am)pocaracas Wrote: Oh, this is sweet: inter-christian fight in an atheist forum!
(September 8, 2012 at 4:46 am)Godschild Wrote: He is not a Biblical Christian, he's like a lot of people of all manner, a want-a-be.
What? Someone from a heretical church dares to call an altar boy from the Holy Apostolic Church a wanna-be? I've seen baptist churches. They're much smaller than a tiny chapel within a typical cathedral. A Baptist who enters one of my churches will probably gasp at the splendour of a real church and for the first time in his life, he'd be thinking what a rotten deal he had for being cut off from the Apostolic church. But we accept heretics and fundies who repent of their sin of fundyism. There's no greater sin than fundyism.